Ike Ibeabuchi VS Joe Louis

[Anthony342]

Well you are probably the only person on this planet who thinks any of Ike's opponents were more technically proficient than Joe Louis. I'd be happy to read some articles about this if you could post them up for us. Hell, I'd be happy to read any articles about ANY heavyweight being g more technically advanced than Louis. Post em if you got em.

Then print them out and smoke em if you got em. Because that's what it sounds like this guy's been doing. Guess it's easier to do these days now that it's legalized in most states.

[Ascended]

Well you are probably the only person on this planet who thinks any of Ike's opponents were more technically proficient than Joe Louis. I'd be happy to read some articles about this if you could post them up for us. Hell, I'd be happy to read any articles about ANY heavyweight being g more technically advanced than Louis. Post em if you got em.

Well thats wrong cause i don't think anything its on video what I can see and you could see it easy to if you had glasses im insulted by you trying to say I think something like im you Im visual only thats all that matters to me no words or quotes can change that

And you won't visually show me the same advances that is seen by Chris or ike that joe had you cant show it its like way more advanced from chris he would outbox all those dudes in Joe's era no problem

[JAB5239]

Well thats wrong cause i don't think anything its on video what I can see and you could see it easy to if you had glasses im insulted by you trying to say I think something like im you Im visual only thats all that matters to me no words or quotes can change that

And you won't visually show me the same advances that is seen by Chris or ike that joe had you cant show it its like way more advanced from chris he would outbox all those dudes in Joe's era no problem

So you can't show me any historian praising Byrd, Ike or any other modern heavy over the past 25 years as the most technically gifted even though you say they are? Hmmm, that sound su****ious. You being visual, I can give you numerous articles by historians and sports journalists praising Joe Louis as the most technically sound heavyweight ever. Do you need me to post some links? I just want to help.

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[them_apples]

So you can't show me any historian praising Byrd, Ike or any other modern heavy over the past 25 years as the most technically gifted even though you say they are? Hmmm, that sound su****ious. You being visual, I can give you numerous articles by historians and sports journalists praising Joe Louis as the most technically sound heavyweight ever. Do you need me to post some links? I just want to help.

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Don’t waste your time. He’s not very knowledgeable about boxing as a sport or historically. Save your energy for real worthwhile debates.

[JAB5239]

Don’t waste your time. He’s not very knowledgeable about boxing as a sport or historically. Save your energy for real worthwhile debates.

I'm just having a little fun. I know he cannot produce anything, and anyone worth their salt knows the great skills of Louis. It's all right there on film.

[Ascended]

I'm just having a little fun. I know he cannot produce anything, and anyone worth their salt knows the great skills of Louis. It's all right there on film.

You know i can't produce anything yet its on video and I never said joe didnt have great skills i said he isnt as advanced and outdated compared that's right there on video you need glasses and apple's is crazy and blind just the same he knows that

your the one who cant produce anything on joe fighting anybody like ike all in one package or joe advances like I shown ike Chris and marion and mutiple others had you could have proved me wrong days ago if you just said this

Here is joe using exact advances like the boxers you named he did the same stuff and here is people who he fought who fought the same way with advances they used as Chris ike marion lennox and others

by you not doing that means you don't have the proof to expose me as a liar all of you people should be happy to expose me as a liar if you had proof how do not see that you wont expose me with exact advances and styles

Instead I get he beat these stiff slow missing advances boxers that's not what I ask or have ever asked for

I want exact comparisons and since you people won't do that I'll keep saying what I say

[JAB5239]

You know i can't produce anything yet its on video and I never said joe didnt have great skills i said he isnt as advanced and outdated compared that's right there on video you need glasses and apple's is crazy and blind just the same he knows that

your the one who cant produce anything on joe fighting anybody like ike all in one package or joe advances like I shown ike Chris and marion and mutiple others had you could have proved me wrong days ago if you just said this

Here is joe using exact advances like the boxers you named he did the same stuff and here is people who he fought who fought the same way with advances they used as Chris ike marion lennox and others

by you not doing that means you don't have the proof to expose me as a liar all of you people should be happy to expose me as a liar if you had proof how do not see that you wont expose me with exact advances and styles

Instead I get he beat these stiff slow missing advances boxers that's not what I ask or have ever asked for

I want exact comparisons and since you people won't do that I'll keep saying what I say

Oh, I know you can't produce anything at all. I've asked for links to articles discussing and praising ANYONE in the last 25 years being the most technically gifted heavyweight. You given me nothing. What are these great advances you speak of? I can literally provide dozens of links from traines, historians and sports writers that cite Louis as the greatest technical heavyweight to this day. Can you provide me a single source claiming Byrd or anyone in the last 25 years with that distimction? I mean you make the claim, but you offer no proof. You can say what you see, I can say what I see. But only one of us can back that up with other opinions on the topic from people in the know, and it isn't you.

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[Ascended]

Oh, I know you can't produce anything at all. I've asked for links to articles discussing and praising ANYONE in the last 25 years being the most technically gifted heavyweight. You given me nothing. What are these great advances you speak of? I can literally provide dozens of links from traines, historians and sports writers that cite Louis as the greatest technical heavyweight to this day. Can you provide me a single source claiming Byrd or anyone in the last 25 years with that distimction? I mean you make the claim, but you offer no proof. You can say what you see, I can say what I see. But only one of us can back that up with other opinions on the topic from people in the know, and it isn't you.

https://coxscorner.tripod.com/louis_ibro.html

Quotes dont mean nothing visual evidence and those quotes are talking for his time not for other eras compared I told you exact video evidence I already provided visual for you to see you wont show the same cause like I keep saying you can't all you have are outdated words and footage you cant post advances that joe had over Chris or ike can you

Cause I noticed when they talk of joe best performance they always say max either one why do they never bring up the jers match you people dont cause it shows jers made joe look like the rest stiff and slow the same as he would look vs ike or chris or any other mid/high from 70s-90s

[JAB5239]

Quotes dont mean nothing visual evidence and those quotes are talking for his time not for other eras compared I told you exact video evidence I already provided visual for you to see you wont show the same cause like I keep saying you can't all you have are outdated words and footage you cant post advances that joe had over Chris or ike can you

I've provided visual evidence when I edited my post. That with Quotes from actual boxing trainers and others. That you cant understand the subtleties of boxing is not my fault. You also can't provide anything besides your own opinion that invalidated what real boxing people already know and have known for years.

[Ascended]

I've provided visual evidence when I edited my post. That with Quotes from actual boxing trainers and others. That you cant understand the subtleties of boxing is not my fault. You also can't provide anything besides your own opinion that invalidated what real boxing people already know and have known for years.

No you provided visual outdated evidence and where is it I cant understand anything at its nothing to understand or not your the one who is choosing to act blind not me and your agian saying opinion I have no opinion just visual

I told you bill was only hit often when joe stopped moving i dont like bill's movement or style what reason would I have to lie thats on video you seen the match so you know bill was only hit often when he stopped moving Joe struggled to hit him otherwise

what people know are joe was great for his time and before not after he is outdated shown by jers and bill who were outdated to compared to other eras