Ike Ibeabuchi VS Joe Louis

[JAB5239]

I wont be talking to you any more cause you obviously can't see and are a liar cause anybody can see joe was like I said he was and you would know that if you looked at other era's cause he was stiff and slow like I said compared and everything I said was right its no match where joe fought a man like ike and no joe sidnt have better offense and defense better then Ike who was more advanced then him you liar

So it is what I said you said the right thing so yea its whatever I say everything I said is fact you need to get glasses cause you can't see good by lying still saying these lies to me cause I see everything as I said it which is fact you liar you need glasses

Ike stood in front of Tua cause he was super tough and a real hw joe wasnt and wasnt a real tough for hard shots agian with the dumb comments

And yea Ike was never the same Tua is the hardest hitter of all time yea he would cause permanent damage those many shots over that long period

so since you cant see good and you said its whatever I say that means im right

when you get glasses you will see everything i said is right cause its on vid

Lol, you won't be talking to me anymore? My heart is broken. You don't know a thing about this sport, that much is obvious.

[Ascended]

Hello Ali!
This I know a little bit about, I was in Ike's camp for the Byrd fight and yes Ike was good but he had holes in his game and was far from the second coming.
His power is over rated also, he is a big man weighing 250 and his punch is about equal to his size not more.
Sam Peter hit twice as hard as Ike, but the only wild card is that Ike was crazy, no one would stay to talk after sparring because Ike would do very strange things.
Compared to one of the best Heavyweights in history I will go with Joe.

I go with your a idiot cause joe was a lhw and never would hurt him or hit him often

[JAB5239]

I go with your a idiot cause joe was a lhw and never would hurt him or hit him often

210lbs is a lightheavyweight in boxing? Under what commission?

[StarshipTrooper]

Sure, whatever you say.

Louis wasn't slow, nor was he stiff. He had both better offense and defense than Ike. It's clear to see on film, which I obviously watch since I posted a link for you of Ike standing right in front of Tua. If Tua had combinations like Louis Ibeabuchi wouldn't have made it out of that fight. As it stands he was never the same after that fight and his career went down in flames most likely from the damage caused.

Remember, is entire schtick is claiming all pre-1990s fighters suck. I doubt if he's ever watched more than a minute of old fight film in his life.

[JAB5239]

Remember, is entire schtick is claiming all pre-1990s fighters suck. I doubt if he's ever watched more than a minute of old fight film in his life.

You're probably right.

[Anthony342]

Remember, is entire schtick is claiming all pre-1990s fighters suck. I doubt if he's ever watched more than a minute of old fight film in his life.

I used to know a dude like that. Finally blocked his dumb ass on all social media. He claimed Mayweather was the best ever because he had never watched any fighter before the late 90s. So sick of this mentality that if it happened before their lifetime, it doesn't count. Schooled him on Robinson, Leonard and Ali and he, of course, had no response to that.

That's why I like coming here. To actually learn about the history of this sport. Like before coming here, I didn't know that not many fights were filmed of even the all time greats until they either won the title or became contenders before the 40s and the Joe Louis era. Either that or they were lost to history. That's crazy and kind of sad. Even Dempsey we have the title fight and most of the defenses. Marciano we have a handful of fights before the title win then I believe everything after that. Didn't know that before researching and coming here.

[StarshipTrooper]

I used to know a dude like that. Finally blocked his dumb ass on all social media. He claimed Mayweather was the best ever because he had never watched any fighter before the late 90s. So sick of this mentality that if it happened before their lifetime, it doesn't count. Schooled him on Robinson, Leonard and Ali and he, of course, had no response to that.

That's why I like coming here. To actually learn about the history of this sport. Like before coming here, I didn't know that not many fights were filmed of even the all time greats until they either won the title or became contenders before the 40s and the Joe Louis era. Either that or they were lost to history. That's crazy and kind of sad. Even Dempsey we have the title fight and most of the defenses. Marciano we have a handful of fights before the title win then I believe everything after that. Didn't know that before researching and coming here.

Most of the pre-WWII fight films were destroyed to get their silver nitrate content (hence the term "silver screen") because it was used in the war production.

[Ascended]

I used to know a dude like that. Finally blocked his dumb ass on all social media. He claimed Mayweather was the best ever because he had never watched any fighter before the late 90s. So sick of this mentality that if it happened before their lifetime, it doesn't count. Schooled him on Robinson, Leonard and Ali and he, of course, had no response to that.

That's why I like coming here. To actually learn about the history of this sport. Like before coming here, I didn't know that not many fights were filmed of even the all time greats until they either won the title or became contenders before the 40s and the Joe Louis era. Either that or they were lost to history. That's crazy and kind of sad. Even Dempsey we have the title fight and most of the defenses. Marciano we have a handful of fights before the title win then I believe everything after that. Didn't know that before researching and coming here.

Well you can't learn from dummies like that here who say bull like a man who obviously was like I said he was vs a person who has mutiple advances in tech and is all around better that means your the dummy

Cause you or any over these other crazy idiots can school me on anything cause you can't see and are crazy cause anybody can see those people you named would be beat by mutiple people cause of advanced tech and movement

Jab and star are both saying joe was more skilled then vid shows I can look up vid of him and his whole era and compare to 70s-90s and see mutiple people who aren't stiff slow and are skilled and with way better tech so you people are the crazy ones not people like me who can see

Didnt bill outbox joe and joe only landed alot when bill stood still
Didnt rock beat joe
Didnt galento bad tech drop joe that dude never would drop any 70s-90s mid/high level boxer

none of these dudes joe fought would give trouble to bowe Frazier mike george
the great holy
Tyson
Mike
Razor
Julian
Canelo and mutiple others that's cause of like i said the advances in tech skill and movement

So see how you people are the crazy ones not me not people like me

I have asked you crazy people mutiple times on 24 to prove me wrong by vid of joe using advances like the people I named while not being slow and stiff they refuse to cause it doesn't exist and they know it I asked a person last week to prove the same he showed me the same vid of joe thats been out that I didn't ask him for

I was told the weird quote i dont know boxing how is that when everything i said is fact cause its on vid that means i do know it cause its on video its not madeup

[JAB5239]

Well you can't learn from dummies like that here who say bull like a man who obviously was like I said he was vs a person who has mutiple advances in tech and is all around better that means your the dummy

Cause you or any over these other crazy idiots can school me on anything cause you can't see and are crazy cause anybody can see those people you named would be beat by mutiple people cause of advanced tech and movement

Jab and star are both saying joe was more skilled then vid shows I can look up vid of him and his whole era and compare to 70s-90s and see mutiple people who aren't stiff slow and are skilled and with way better tech so you people are the crazy ones not people like me who can see

Didnt bill outbox joe and joe only landed alot when bill stood still
Didnt jack beat joe
Didnt galento bad tech drop joe that dude never would drop any 70s-90s mid/high level boxer

none of these dudes joe fought would give trouble to bowe Frazier mike george
the great holy
Tyson
Mike
Razor
Julian
Canelo and mutiple others that's cause of like i said the advances in tech skill and movement

So see how you people are the crazy ones not me not people like me

I have asked you crazy people mutiple times on 24 to prove me wrong by vid of joe using advances like the people I named while not being slow and stiff they refuse to cause it doesn't exist and they know it I asked a person last week to prove the same he showed me the same vid of joe thats been out that I didn't ask him for

Is this even in English?

You see what you want to see in order to advance your agenda. That doesn't make it true and you put together a crappy opinion as to why you think your right. Historians then and today recognize the skills of Joe Louis and his punching power and technique. Its why he is still rated so highly today.

If Conn stood still wouldn't have have learned his lesson the second time? Why was he knocked out again? Using Conn is a terrible argument because one, he lost both fights. And two, he wasn't stationary like Ike.

Galento, for all his roundness beat several Contenders and had proven power. He was also tough. Louis absolutely destroyed him with ease after getting knocked down. Again, not sure where you're going with that?

Who's Jack? Pretty sure he never beat Louis.

Ibeabuchi looked to be talented and up and coming. But he only beat a short Tua by the skin of his teeth, and was never the same again, and Byrd. A guy who started his career at super middleweight and had no punching power. Both are good wins, but neither were anything close to Joe Louis who had great power, was technically the most proficient heavyweight ever, and had very fast hands.

[markusmod]

Well its others there but even if you seen the 2 fights only that you said how do you see joe surviving those shots when he was hurt by people like galento who had trash tech but hit hard

like would you just be real look at ike how he punched from angles was a real hw
he punched with good tech
He was real tough for taking shots
he is able to fight from range

Joe has good tech but needs his person to stand where he wants

Joe has stiff feet and slow

Joe has mutiple missing of advances in punch angles and smoothness compared to the 70s-90s


So can you tell me any match where he fought anybody who had the combo of ike who was as big as he was

Cause if you cant picking joe makes no sense whatsoever like anybody who can see good can see how easily ike would destroy him and others in joe time

Chris could fight joe and do him bad to cause of the same stuff ike had just he wasnt as strong the point is advances are way to much for joe

As far as tech Joe's was way better looking but he didn't have the advances that ike had in his use of angles or did he have body movement like ike and his era had like I said which would be the most important in any match with joe vs era's

Its always hard to match up guys from the past against the present. Maybe Joe boxes him silly, maybe Ike blows him out in one round.