Rocky Marciano is very overrated IMO

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  • BodyBagz
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    #151
    One of the most overrated.
    I guess people praise him due to that 0 ?!?!?
    If one listens to the purists, it's the only meaningful 0 in the sport

    Talk about a collection of past prime names with a healthy helping of bums.....
    Top 5 all time overrated boxer.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #152
      Originally posted by them_apples

      You ain't even one of those posters who sympathizes with new fighters, you just sympathize with Wlad. oddly enough
      - - Wlad had a historical run at Joe Louis record, the only fighter in the last 70 years to do so.

      Sorry to hear you got demoted to soprano in your choir, but at least you know now where you rate on the testosterone scale after the Ks finished their historic run.

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        #153
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - Wlad had a historical run at Joe Louis record, the only fighter in the last 70 years to do so.

        Sorry to hear you got demoted to soprano in your choir, but at least you know now where you rate on the testosterone scale after the Ks finished their historic run.
        Larry Holmes had a better run and did it consecutively while being the lineal champion for a longer streak

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          #154
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          Larry Holmes had a better run and did it consecutively while being the lineal champion for a longer streak
          - - Flimsy 0-6, 0 KO vs fighters holding a record won in the ring.

          Thanks for the reminder...

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            #155
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Flimsy 0-6, 0 KO vs fighters holding a record won in the ring.

            Thanks for the reminder...
            Can’t think of a single good fighter Wlad ever beat to say he was great. You can’t ha be great if youve 2 unavenged ko losses in your prime and then settle for the next decade knocking out fat cruisers / fathers who all fight with the same style, if you call it a style. Hands up, wait - walk forward.
            Last edited by them_apples; 01-02-2023, 11:47 AM.

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              #156
              Originally posted by them_apples

              CanâÂÂt think of a single good fighter Wlad ever beat to say he was great. You canâÂÂt ha be great if youve 2 unavenged ko losses in your prime and then settle for the next decade knocking out fat cruisers / fathers who all fight with the same style, if you call it a style. Hands up, wait - walk forward.
              - - U squealin' in soprano over Wlad ain't a good look.

              Worse is 0-6, 0 KO.

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                #157
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Flimsy 0-6, 0 KO vs fighters holding a record won in the ring.

                Thanks for the reminder...
                You hate the fact Holmes will ALWAYS be considered the greater fighter and champion, don't you? I mean it's practically universal.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  You hate the fact Holmes will ALWAYS be considered the greater fighter and champion, don't you? I mean it's practically universal.
                  - - Nero fiddling while Rome was Burning...priceless.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by them_apples

                    You ain't even one of those posters who sympathizes with new fighters, you just sympathize with Wlad. oddly enough
                    - - I relate to good fighters in honest careers. Wlad was a great fighter in an extraordinary career.

                    Every time I watched Lar fight the B and C fighters, I asked why ain't he fighting the WBA champ?

                    Answer: He didn't fancy it. Wasn't game enough for the challenge, so King played him like a drum propped up to match Rocky record where he bit off more than he could chew.

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                      #160
                      Mariciano and Holmes dominated the eras during which they fought, and Fury is in the midst of dominating his own. We could ask no more of them. Marciano could've added any combination of Bob Baker, Nino Valdez, Dan Bucceroni, Heinz Neuhaus, Jimmy Slade, Charlie Norkus, Earl Walls, Harold Johnson, Clarence Henry, Bob Satterfield, Doc Williams, Embrel Davidson, Billy Gilliam, Hein Ten Hoff,
                      Coley Wallace, Jack Gardner, Bruce Wood****, Kitione Lave, Johnny Williams, Joe Erskine and Franco Cavicchi to his list of title defenses to further bolster his clean sweep of his heavyweight division.
                      Larry Holmes might have added to his title reign with additional victories over Howard Smith, Johnny Boudreaux, Duane Bobick, John Tate, Kallie Knoetze, Gerrie Coetzee, Michael Dokes, Quick Tillis, Greg Page, Pinklon Thomas, James Broad, John L. Gardner, Tommy Franco Thomas and Jimmy Young. But......Not one of those opponents ever represented a contender who was thought to be better than the ones who DID receive their shot against Marciano or Holmes, in spite of what a few posters would prefer to beleive; and a champion simply can't make room on their schedule for everyone. Even a fight that you win without visible problems takes a toll. Those two beating the other best challengers to stay champion a long time is a phenomenal achievement. Harder than what any critics ever did for a living in civilian life. No challenger left unattended would ever have been a favorite.
                      As for Fury, remember that there is a pyramid process whereby active fighters have to stay busy and chew each other up in a mad scramble to the top, and most contenders get picked off in this process, with only a few emerging as real threats against the champions. For Fury, there is still work to be done in cementing a legacy that stacks up well against the other greats. That's something a bit beyond simply being the best for a few years while avoiding a loss. Fury is well begun, of course. His trilogy against Wilder will be well remembered, and every win by both Fury and Wilder from here on out will grow that. But in the years since Fury, Wilder and Joshua took over the kingdom, the latter two title claimants have done much of the work in terms of keeping the challengers at bay, and in addition; today we are seeing the next bunch come to the front (Ruiz, Usyk, Joyce, etc.); so if he is to make the most of his talents and his time at the top, Tyson Fury will have a capable and competent contingent of future challengers waiting to allow him to fully make up for his time away from the game, as Ali was able to do. The term "Overrated" is one that I understand but take exception with. You are welcome to Rate these champions where and how you choose; but history, in the form of how others perceive them may not agree.

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