Larry Holmes and Wladimir Klitschko. Titlereign comparison.

[JAB5239]

- - What grade you get kicked out of school?

WBA champs won the title, then lost the title, but not to Tubby Lar who was still skinny then. No, they lost to the new WBA champ that could never be Lar because he weren't ever WBA material.

No, he was just the recognized true heavyweight and lineal heavyweight champion.

[QueensburyRules]

But.....Weaver WAS the WBA champ after Holmes KOd him in spectacular fashion as though he'd been shot. And Weaver went on to be one of the few anti Popes to actually make a title defense. "You can't fight Joe Frazier every 4 months" - Muhammad Ali.

I submit that after Ali; Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Wladimir, Vitali, Fury, Wilder and Joshua all took Ali's advice.

Just sayin'.

- - Weaver an unknown journeyman Lar was famous for near KOed Lar.

Weaver became the WBA champ after KOing Big John Tate who had traveled to South Africa to outpoint Coatzee, taking that lucrative fight that Lar ducked.

Thanks for the reminder!!!

[JAB5239]

- - Weaver an unknown journeyman Lar was famous for near KOed Lar.

Weaver became the WBA champ after KOing Big John Tate who had traveled to South Africa to outpoint Coatzee, taking that lucrative fight that Lar ducked.

Thanks for the reminder!!!

Holmes didn't duck Coetzee, and you know it. He was protesting apartheid. The fight did get made and fell apart do to no fault of Holmes.

[Willow The Wisp]

Holmes didn't duck Coetzee, and you know it. He was protesting apartheid. The fight did get made and fell apart do to no fault of Holmes.

He knows all this. Anyone with even a mild interest in combat sports in the 80s knows this. Hes just yanking the chain. Holmes wasn't WBA material, lol

[JAB5239]

He knows all this. Anyone with even a mild interest in combat sports in the 80s knows this. Hes just yanking the chain. Holmes wasn't WBA material, lol

He's an idiot, and I heard through the g****vine he smells like old cold cuts and cheap vodka.

[QueensburyRules]

Holmes didn't duck Coetzee, and you know it. He was protesting apartheid. The fight did get made and fell apart do to no fault of Holmes.

- - Ali was a robust newworthy political figure. Lar just a fireplug.

John Tate was a US Olympic Medalist with more gravitas to speak politically, and he spoke to the South African populace with his fists.

Lar never made the Olympic team after getting beat up and knocked out by Duane Bobick who also won an Olympic medal. Everything spewing from Lar is about his insecurity, not the betterment of mankind...

[JAB5239]

- - Ali was a robust newworthy political figure. Lar just a fireplug.

John Tate was a US Olympic Medalist with more gravitas to speak politically, and he spoke to the South African populace with his fists.

Lar never made the Olympic team after getting beat up and knocked out by Duane Bobick who also won an Olympic medal. Everything spewing from Lar is about his insecurity, not the betterment of mankind...

I don't care how you personally feel about Holmes, I just want to know when he could have fought the conveyor belt of WBA titlists that couldn't hold on to a belt? If someone believes in something it doesn't matter if they're newsworthy or a political figure. That is called integrity. Something you obviously know nothing about.

[Willie Pep 229]

He's an idiot, and I heard through the g****vine he smells like old cold cuts and cheap vodka.

Is there such a thing as good vodka? It's like gin, it's for the lower classes.

[Willie Pep 229]

I don't care how you personally feel about Holmes, I just want to know when he could have fought the conveyor belt of WBA titlists that couldn't hold on to a belt? If someone believes in something it doesn't matter if they're newsworthy or a political figure. That is called integrity. Something you obviously know nothing about.

These unification bouts usually necessitated a promoter who could get both champions under contract. E.g. Don King.

But most promoters usually threw there lot in with one scantioning body or the other. Negating the possibility of a unifaction bout.

I know King had Holmes under contract but does anyone know which promoters were handling the various WBA champions during that period? Did King ever have contract control over both fighters?

[QueensburyRules]

These unification bouts usually necessitated a promoter who could get both champions under contract. E.g. Don King.

But most promoters usually threw there lot in with one scantioning body or the other. Negating the possibility of a unifaction bout.

I know King had Holmes under contract but does anyone know which promoters were handling the various WBA champions during that period? Did King ever have contract control over both fighters?

- - DKing handled the WBA fraud for many years until Wlad came along and gave him the boot.

There were a half dozen WBA champs in Lar's title years, ie a half dozen chances to sign to fight them, and nary a single attempt was ever made to my knowledge though their was a slapstick arrangement with King to have him fight Coetzee after he upset Doke's Homecoming. By that time the $$$ had disappeared behind Gerrie and King wouldn't invest his own, so the fight was just a phantasm in fight history.