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  • Bronson66
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    #71
    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

    I remember he tried to fight Tyson but Mike didn't want that smoke. He would have murdered Valuev Toney Golota and all the guys on your list. Roy did not demand to fight Vitali LOL he would have gotten killed. No one on your list called out Vitali. Toney did but he was shot and old and had no chance whatsoever.
    I'd like some primary sourced quotes to back up your statements.I do Know Holyfield wanted to fight him.

    Twenty one ranked men he did not fight,please don't tell me he ducked nobody,because I don't believe it.

    What chance did Briggs,Sosnowski,Williams,and Charr have?
    Last edited by Bronson66; 07-29-2025, 04:08 AM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Bronson66

      I'd like some primary sourced quotes to back up your statements.I don Know Holyfield wanted to fight him.

      Twenty one ranked men he did not fight,please don't tell me he ducked nobody,because I don't believe it. What chance did Briggs,Sosnowski,Williams,and Charr have?
      Don't expect anything anytime soon. These guys like to play fast and loose with the facts.......the one they're not making up of course.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Bronson66

        I'd like some primary sourced quotes to back up your statements.I don Know Holyfield wanted to fight him.

        Twenty one ranked men he did not fight,please don't tell me he ducked nobody,because I don't believe it. What chance did Briggs,Sosnowski,Williams,and Charr have?
        Holyfield made no attempt to fight Vitali, he was shot by then anyway. This phony duck list is ridiculous. Not one of these boxers ever called Vitali out except for Toney who was a loon at that point and just doing it for media attention and self value. None of this list had any chance to beat Vitali. Valuev never ever talked about Vitali or Wladimir. I remember Wladimir was once asked about Valuev and he said he would have fun with him. Easy work.

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        • Bennyleonard99
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          #74
          Please show any link of Holyfield challenging Vitali. He was shot by early 2000s anyway. Couldn't even beat Byrd or Ruiz who were both shielded from the Klitschkos by Don King.

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            #75
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            Byrd had the WBO title he took from Vits that Vits swore to to home town German fans he would get back.
            Wlad cleared him a few months after and Vitali was leading on the scorecards anyway, there was no unfinished business if it were not for a title, claiming otherwise is grasping for straws.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Haka

              Wlad cleared him a few months after and Vitali was leading on the scorecards anyway, there was no unfinished business if it were not for a title, claiming otherwise is grasping for straws.
              Wlad is not Vits. Byrd took Vits WBO title and Vits never tried to regain it. Pretending the brothers are one and the same is ridiculous. Byrd fought Vits close and had Vits fans cheering for him by the end of the fight. Saying anything different is grasping at straws.

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                #77
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                Wlad is not Vits. Byrd took Vits WBO title and Vits never tried to regain it. Pretending the brothers are one and the same is ridiculous. Byrd fought Vits close and had Vits fans cheering for him by the end of the fight. Saying anything different is grasping at straws.
                Vitali was mandatory for Lewis when did Byrd become mandatory for Vitali ?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Haka

                  Vitali was mandatory for Lewis when did Byrd become mandatory for Vitali ?
                  So you're saying Byrd beating Vits doesnt matter, but Vits losing to Lewis and wanting a rematch does....um ok.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

                    Holyfield made no attempt to fight Vitali, he was shot by then anyway. This phony duck list is ridiculous. Not one of these boxers ever called Vitali out except for Toney who was a loon at that point and just doing it for media attention and self value. None of this list had any chance to beat Vitali. Valuev never ever talked about Vitali or Wladimir. I remember Wladimir was once asked about Valuev and he said he would have fun with him. Easy work.
                    In2002 Holyfield was no4 Vitali was no7.

                    Tyson didn't want any of Vitali's smoke, but he was happy to fight Lewis that year2002.lol
                    In2004 Vitali was the Ring Champion.
                    1.Byrd
                    2,Ruiz
                    3.Rahman
                    4.Toney
                    5.Barrett
                    6.Golota
                    7.Oquendo
                    8. McCline
                    9,Sanders
                    10.Brewster
                    According to you the reason Vitali did not defend against no's 1.2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10 is they didn't want a title shot against him.
                    Now that's ridiculous!

                    What is also ridiculous is you making excuses for Vitali by passing 21 ranked contenders when he himself was ranked,and fighting past it unranked men and journeymen,like:
                    Williams, Sosnowski,Charr,Briggs.

                    You have no evidence or basis to show any of those names I posted didn't want to fight Vitali,that's just your unsupported opinion,which is all I have seen in any of your posts.
                    Statements with no facts to back them up.
                    Last edited by Bronson66; 07-29-2025, 04:31 AM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Bronson66
                      In2002 Holyfield was no4 Vitali was no7.

                      Tyson didn't want any of Vitali's smoke, but he was happy to fight Lewis that year2002.lol
                      In2004 Vitali was the Ring Champion.
                      1.Byrd
                      2,Ruiz
                      3.Rahman
                      4.Toney
                      5.Barrett
                      6.Golota
                      7.Oquendo
                      8. McCline
                      9,Sanders
                      10.Brewster
                      According to you the reason Vitali did not defend against no's 1.2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10 is they didn't want a title shot against him.
                      Now that's ridiculous!

                      What is also ridiculous is you making excuses for Vitali by passing 21 ranked contenders when he himself was ranked,and fighting past it unranked men and journeymen,like:
                      Williams, Sosnowski,Charr,Briggs.

                      You have no evidence or basis to show any of those names I posted didn't want to fight Vitali,that's just your unsupported opinion,which is all I have seen in any of your posts.
                      Statements with no facts to back them up.
                      No one on your list wanted to fight Vitali and there is no documented interview evidence that any of them called him out. Nobody on that list could beat him. Nice try. Toney mouthed off about fighting the Ks but at that stage that's all he could do was talk and draw attention to himself and his falling career. If you think Byrd or Ruiz or Barrett Oquendo Golota McCline could beat Vitali, you're not worth the time debating. The Ks cleaned out the division totally.

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