Lennox revising history re Vitali rematch

[Bennyleonard99]

Hayefaker faked out of the first Wlad fight with a phony injury - stage fright and fear of the KO loss after his intimidation attempts (with phony confidence) backfired and then Haye became terrified of Wladimir. Then when Haye finally had to fight Wladimir he fought terrified and only to survive.

[Bennyleonard99]

Prove it!

How would Mahone get a title shot against the most prolific heavyweight champion on earth without being ranked? Your "they weren't ranked" crusade is utter rubbish by a clown.

[Bronson66]

How would Mahone get a title shot against the most prolific heavyweight champion on earth without being ranked? Your "they weren't ranked" crusade is utter rubbish by a clown.

Prove it!
Q , What do Mahone and Sosnowski have in common?
A.Neither ever beat a ranked fighter.

[JAB5239]

No, I did not say I speak German. Rather a German person who watched the broadcast in German said this and the original broadcast of the fight in English mentioned he had pain in one of his arms via interpreter in round three. You obviously know nothing about a torn shoulder. I used the term torn shoulder in layman's terms .

A "torn shoulder" typically refers to a tear in one of the muscles, tendons, or ligaments in the shoulder, often involving the rotator cuff or labrum. The shoulder is a complex joint with structures like the rotator cuff (a group of four muscles and their tendons that stabilize the shoulder) and the labrum (cartilage that deepens the shoulder socket). Vitali suffered a rotator cuff injury during the fight. one or more of the four rotator cuff tendons (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, subscapularis) was torn and needed surgery to be repaired.

A tear severely limits strength and motion, making punching ineffective and painful. You can do it but the effect of the punch is gone and lame.

Without an MRI and a CT, one can not determine the damage. Again you dont know what you are talking about. Likely there was a partial tear early on and a full tear later on in the fight which required surgery to fix.

Vitali fought on for rounds and feared for his career. If the fight was a legacy type of fight, Vitali would have likely finished the fight, but he was young, in a lot of pain, had his career to consider. His arm was not working properly.

You are a negative Nancy type on Vitali. Everyone knows the injury is the only reason Byrd won Byrd could not believe his luck. I don't ask you if you are a sanitation worker. It is none of my business. Nor should you ask me if am/was an MD. Yes, I am a very well off, but that is as far as I wish to tell you.

So we've established that you're not a real doctor and have no idea when the injury occurred, and you don't speak German so have no clue what was said in the German broadcast. Is this correct? What we do know for a FACT is in the HBO broadcast Vits never complained about any injury until the round before he quit, he never stopped punching with that arm, and he promised the German fans he would get his title back but never sought fight rematch Byrd. Are these not the facts of the matter? And if I'm a "Nancy" type about Vits what does that make you and the rest of the Klitschko nuthuggers about Lewis? Your double standards astounding me!!!

[Bronson66]

You are not reading what I said. Typically of a negative Nancy type. You tey to make the issue about me, and not the facts!

Keep making excuses as to why Lewis retired suddenly after trying to make other fights only to suddenly retire after 8+ months when the WBC ordered the re-match. Hmmmm. And tell us when Byrd offered the re-match?!

You avoid these key points. Why? And the original boadcast and the shown reply much later on you tube differ a litlle in audio, but then again you don't know such things.

The facts must smack you in the face ...

Tell us when Vitali asked for the rematch? lol

[Hustle]

Lennox never wanted the rematch and never committed to it, even when Merchant pressured him about it in the ring after the first right, Lennox would not commit to it. So it was clear Lennox knew he got lucky and didn't want that smoke again.

For Lennox to say Vitali was always going to be his last fight is simply not truth. On the HBO telecast of Vitali vs Lennox, Lennox said during a prefight interview bit that he intended to keep fighting after he beat Vitali. This is fact, I have the tape and it should be in you tube. But the fight Vitali gave him wrecked all those plans. Lennox needed his last surge of greatness to survive Vitali. He knew he had nothing left and could not beat Vitali a second time.

You don't need to beat a man that you stopped already again. The loser wants revenge. The winner won.

As fans we wanted a rematch for sure. But as fighters. Vitali needed the rematch. Not Lennox.

No different than Leonard vs Hagler

[QueensburyRules]

So we've established that you're not a real doctor and have no idea when the injury occurred, and you don't speak German so have no clue what was said in the German broadcast. Is this correct? What we do know for a FACT is in the HBO broadcast Vits never complained about any injury until the round before he quit, he never stopped punching with that arm, and he promised the German fans he would get his title back but never sought fight rematch Byrd. Are these not the facts of the matter? And if I'm a "Nancy" type about Vits what does that make you and the rest of the Klitschko nuthuggers about Lewis? Your double standards astounding me!!!

- - U still stuck on Byrd who promptly lost his title to Wlad...broken records seems to be U specialty...

[Bennyleonard99]

You don't need to beat a man that you stopped already again. The loser wants revenge. The winner won.

As fans we wanted a rematch for sure. But as fighters. Vitali needed the rematch. Not Lennox.

No different than Leonard vs Hagler

The fight needed a rematch, Vitali was game to fight on as we all saw, but the referee jumped in and stopped it against his will. It's possible the referee was ordered by the promoter Gary Shaw to help Lennox escape the most grueling, draining, exhausting and vicious fight of his career.

The optics were the referee rescued Lennox and not the other way around. Vitali's protesting was so passionate, vehement and adamant that the arena crowd took his side and booed Lennox as he departed the ring.

A rematch was needed and with the the built in story lines, it would have automatically generated massive profits. Isn't that what prize fighting is supposed to be about? $$$

[Mr Mitts]

Vitaly was colded by little Byrd and big Lenny. That's enough. I don't think he would make a top 100 list.

[JAB5239]

You are not reading what I said. Typically of a negative Nancy type. You tey to make the issue about me, and not the facts!

Keep making excuses as to why Lewis retired suddenly after trying to make other fights only to suddenly retire after 8+ months when the WBC ordered the re-match. Hmmmm. And tell us when Byrd offered the re-match?!

You avoid these key points. Why? And the original boadcast and the shown reply much later on you tube differ a litlle in audio, but then again you don't know such things.

The facts must smack you in the face ...

Everything i stated was a fact. Did Lewis make any other fights? No. This is also a fact. Did Vits keep his word to the people of Germany? No. Another fact. Did he ducked Rahman by saying he couldn't be ready to fight and as soon as Rahman signed another fight he tried making a fight with Maskaev. Fact!!

You don't speak German. You have no idea what the broadcast says. We know it was never mentioned until the round before the last on HBO. Another fact.

Why would the winner need to chase the loser for a rematch?