Lennox revising history re Vitali rematch

[Willie Pep 229]

Or with Vtiali's Ko of Johnson six months after the Lewis fight in 2003 and Roy Jones declining a match with Lewis, Lennox suddenly retired and only when the WBC order the re-match. Now you have the correct timelines.

Vitali winked a Lewis saying " he knows Lennox saw this fight " after the Johnson destruction, and called him out for the re-match repeatedly..

OK - so Lewis hung around to see if he could pull off an easy payday against Jones. (Which would have been a joke fight.)

When Jones said "no thanks" he quit. He didn't t want another tough fight. He knew he was done.

You don't blame a prize fighter for gabbing an easy payday if it is there.

The rule is simple, if respected. When a fighter says 'that's all' (retires) then that's all, he doesn't owe anyone a fight. No duck!

The problem with guys like you . . . If Lewis has a rematch with Vitali, defeats him, and retires, you will simply pick the next guy on the list and claimed he ducked that fighter.

By the rules of boxing, tradition, precedents, and respect, if a fighter truly retires he ducked no one.

Your behavior is disrespectful but then again half the posts on this forum are disrespectful. Stu-pid categories like, "Biggest Disappointment" - "Wasted Potential." Etc.

[Bennyleonard99]

Interesting argument but the time line does not match up.

They fought on June of 2003.

Lewis does wait nine months before retiring, without another fight. Which means he was considering another fight, maybe.

But waiting for Vitali to lose to Sanders does not work. Vitali does not fight Sanders until April of 2004.

Lewis retires - February 6th 2004
Vitali fights Sanders April 24th 2004

My bad. Good call. But LL did wait to see if Johnson could beat Vitali, I remember LL did predict Johnson to win that fight at MSG but he got bombed out early. Lennox was clearly waiting and hoping for Vitali to lose. If Vitali did lose to Johnson, you can be sure LL would not have retired. LL also predicted Sanders would beat Vitali which also proves LL was unable to gauge or understand Vitali as a fighter.

[Bronson66]

- - Lewie missed Right hand with deliberately flailing surgical tape leaving a razor cut that Lewie further opened up by rubbing his rasta locks into the wound every time he clinched Vit.

HBO went through the whole fight after to isolate when the cut first appeared as Lewie grew ever more dirty and desperate over getting beat up by Vit who took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Time to transfer to a muy thai forum where a mite of a chance might exist for a nanogram of respect for U.

Time for you to drink that poison I mailed you!

[Dr Z]

The problem with guys like you . . . If Lewis has a rematch with Vitali, defeats him, and retires, you will simply pick the next guy on the list and claimed he ducked that fighter.

Nio sir. By tradition if the match is close, and the opponent was winning on the cards only to lose via cuts, and the champion says twice I'll rematch him, fans expect that.


Lewis tried to make other matches. When the WBC ordered the re-match, 95%+ of other fighters did it. I can think of one example when the champ avoided him under orderers. Lewis, who was acting like an active fighter and trying to make other matches, suddenly retired.

[Bronson66]

Nio sir. By tradition if the match is close, and the opponent was winning on the cards only to lose via cuts, and the champion says twice I'll rematch him, fans expect that.


Lewis tried to make other matches. When the WBC ordered the re-match, 95%+ of other fighters did it. I can think of one example when the champ avoided him under orderers. Lewis, who was acting like an active fighter and trying to make other matches, suddenly retired.

Robinson v Basilio.De Lahoya v Trinidad,Hagler v Leonard, Loughran v Delaney, Loughran v Tunney,

[Mr Mitts]

No sir. By tradition if the match is close, and the opponent was winning on the cards only to lose via cuts, and the champion says twice I'll rematch him, fans expect that.

Hard to argue with that statement. Fans also expect or at least hope for a timely rematch. If they do not get that they can never be satisfied by an untimely one, such as Leonard v Hearns II.

[Bennyleonard99]

Nio sir. By tradition if the match is close, and the opponent was winning on the cards only to lose via cuts, and the champion says twice I'll rematch him, fans expect that.


Lewis tried to make other matches. When the WBC ordered the re-match, 95%+ of other fighters did it. I can think of one example when the champ avoided him under orderers. Lewis, who was acting like an active fighter and trying to make other matches, suddenly retired.

The optics were clear. Vitali chased Lennox into retirement. LL is still trying to do damage control two decades later.

[JAB5239]

The optics were clear. Vitali chased Lennox into retirement. LL is still trying to do damage control two decades later.

And 2 decades later Klitschko fans have still not gotten over TKO6.

Let's make one thing empirically clear, Lewis won his biggest fights, and beat other greats. Vits didn't.

[Willie Pep 229]

Hard to argue with that statement. Fans also expect or at least hope for a timely rematch. If they do not get that they can never be satisfied by an untimely one, such as Leonard v Hearns II.

The difference is Lewis' willingness to retire. That tru-mps all other precedents.

[JAB5239]

The difference is Lewis' willingness to retire. That tru-mps all other precedents.

If he had come back and made another fight I would get their point. As it stands he did not. I don't see how we can fault a man for retiring and staying that way when so many others cannot.