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  • #71
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    Nobody said Vits demanded a rematch with Byrd. That's the problem. You excuse this but think Lewis owed him ANYTHING after beating him and retiring. As far as Rahman goes...he avoided his number one contender. If Rahman was no threat than why not make the fight? More excuses but nuthuggers forthcoming I'm sure. Why did Vits feign injury to get out of a Rahman fight only to schedule a different fight after the Rahman fight fell thru? I told you you were in the deep end of the pool now, and youre drowning. You like to use a lot of conjecture but very little facts.
    I think Vitali retired the first time because he his body had broken down, not to duck Hasim Rahman. What was so scary about Rahman for Vitali? Then Vitali regained his health and decided to comeback and challenge new champ Sam Peter, who probably was the more formidable challenge at that time, more so than Rahman. I remember the time and it never seemed Vitali was dodging Rahman. Vitali never dodged anyone. He fought Sanders at his most dangerous, with enormous pressure on him Vitali beat the hell out of Sanders who is outrageously underrated. Crazy power in that lightning bolt left hand, probably the most lethal left hand in boxing history. Sanders was far far better than the part time golfer the media made him out to be. That was an unbelievable win by Vitali and an awesome performance. Though nobody remembers it for what it was because the media labeled Sanders as a washed up part time golfer. Peak Sanders would have knocked old Ali into the third row. Peak Sanders would have KOed Frazier, Norton and many other champs.
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    • #72
      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

      I think Vitali retired the first time because he his body had broken down, not to duck Hasim Rahman. What was so scary about Rahman for Vitali? Then Vitali regained his health and decided to comeback and challenge new champ Sam Peter, who probably was the more formidable challenge at that time, more so than Rahman. I remember the time and it never seemed Vitali was dodging Rahman. Vitali never dodged anyone. He fought Sanders at his most dangerous, with enormous pressure on him Vitali beat the hell out of Sanders who is outrageously underrated. Crazy power in that lightning bolt left hand, probably the most lethal left hand in boxing history. Sanders was far far better than the part time golfer the media made him out to be. That was an unbelievable win by Vitali and an awesome performance. Though nobody remembers it for what it was because the media labeled Sanders as a washed up part time golfer. Peak Sanders would have knocked old Ali into the third row. Peak Sanders would have KOed Frazier, Norton and many other champs.
      Some ranked men Vitali never fought whilst being ranked himself.
      Tua
      Tyson
      Dimitrenko
      Valuev
      Rahman
      Fury
      Povetkin
      Pulev
      Helenius
      Haye
      Chagaev
      Boytsov
      Ibragimov
      Brewster
      Oquendo
      Barrett
      Golota
      Toney
      Holyfield
      JonesJnr
      McCline

      Instead fighting
      Charr
      Sosnowski
      Williams
      Kevin Johnson
      Chisora
      Briggs
      Donald.

      None of them ranked by the Ring
      After Lewis, Vitali fought 12 men how many of them were Ring ranked?
      Cherry Picker.


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      • #73
        Originally posted by Haka View Post

        Byrd was irrelevent had no titles, and Vitali had bigger fish to fry which he did in chasing after Lennox.
        Byrd had the WBO title he took from Vits that Vits swore to to home town German fans he would get back.
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        • #74
          Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
          Some ranked men Vitali never fought whilst being ranked himself.
          Tua
          Tyson
          Dimitrenko
          Valuev
          Rahman
          Fury
          Povetkin
          Pulev
          Helenius
          Haye
          Chagaev
          Boytsov
          Ibragimov
          Brewster
          Oquendo
          Barrett
          Golota
          Toney
          Holyfield
          JonesJnr
          McCline

          Instead fighting
          Charr
          Sosnowski
          Williams
          Kevin Johnson
          Chisora
          Briggs
          Donald.

          None of them ranked by the Ring
          After Lewis, Vitali fought 12 men how many of them were Ring ranked?
          Cherry Picker.

          I remember he tried to fight Tyson but Mike didn't want that smoke. He would have murdered Valuev Toney Golota and all the guys on your list. Roy did not demand to fight Vitali LOL he would have gotten killed. No one on your list called out Vitali. Toney did but he was shot and old and had no chance whatsoever.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Haka View Post

            Byrd was irrelevent had no titles, and Vitali had bigger fish to fry which he did in chasing after Lennox.
            Right, Byrd was just a Don King pawn at the time, used by King to control the IBF belt, like Ruiz was used by King to control the WBA belt. King knew both Byrd and Ruiz had no chance vs either Klitschko and kept them in house as long as he could.

            Lewis selling the belt to King was a move which helped King, his former backstabber, and it hurt the Klitschkos quest of trying to win all four belts together.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post

              I remember he tried to fight Tyson but Mike didn't want that smoke. He would have murdered Valuev Toney Golota and all the guys on your list. Roy did not demand to fight Vitali LOL he would have gotten killed. No one on your list called out Vitali. Toney did but he was shot and old and had no chance whatsoever.
              I'd like some primary sourced quotes to back up your statements.I do Know Holyfield wanted to fight him.

              Twenty one ranked men he did not fight,please don't tell me he ducked nobody,because I don't believe it.

              What chance did Briggs,Sosnowski,Williams,and Charr have?
              Last edited by Bronson66; 07-29-2025, 04:08 AM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                I'd like some primary sourced quotes to back up your statements.I don Know Holyfield wanted to fight him.

                Twenty one ranked men he did not fight,please don't tell me he ducked nobody,because I don't believe it. What chance did Briggs,Sosnowski,Williams,and Charr have?
                Don't expect anything anytime soon. These guys like to play fast and loose with the facts.......the one they're not making up of course.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                  I'd like some primary sourced quotes to back up your statements.I don Know Holyfield wanted to fight him.

                  Twenty one ranked men he did not fight,please don't tell me he ducked nobody,because I don't believe it. What chance did Briggs,Sosnowski,Williams,and Charr have?
                  Holyfield made no attempt to fight Vitali, he was shot by then anyway. This phony duck list is ridiculous. Not one of these boxers ever called Vitali out except for Toney who was a loon at that point and just doing it for media attention and self value. None of this list had any chance to beat Vitali. Valuev never ever talked about Vitali or Wladimir. I remember Wladimir was once asked about Valuev and he said he would have fun with him. Easy work.

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                  • #79
                    Please show any link of Holyfield challenging Vitali. He was shot by early 2000s anyway. Couldn't even beat Byrd or Ruiz who were both shielded from the Klitschkos by Don King.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                      Byrd had the WBO title he took from Vits that Vits swore to to home town German fans he would get back.
                      Wlad cleared him a few months after and Vitali was leading on the scorecards anyway, there was no unfinished business if it were not for a title, claiming otherwise is grasping for straws.

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