The great HW men who wouldn't quit.

[JAB5239]

I did not say Kloi***e vs. Johsnon was FIXED. I can name many fights where the police entered the ring. Johnson's fight with shimpy 5'7" 168 pound Burns is just one of many examples.

You certainly implied it, didnt you? Why write this at all?

"I said, only a small sample which you make a conclusion on? The police entered the ring they did so on many fixed fights and fights where a guy was going through the motions."

Schmuck.

[Dr Z]

You certainly implied it, didnt you? Why write this at all?

"I said, only a small sample which you make a conclusion on? The police entered the ring they did so on many fixed fights and fights where a guy was going through the motions."

Schmuck.

Shmendrik. I was not repyling to you.

Now maybe you can tell me why McGrain is a well known boxing historian.

Maybe you can admit that two book says Johnson quit. One of the goes into details on his process.

Maybe you listen to me and contact the wirtrers as I listed their sources.

But then again I say you won't!

[JAB5239]

JAB5239 ,

McGrian is a " well known boxing historian ", you say?!

This could be the wildest claim you have made! No boxing historian rates Brittish Mickey Walker in the top 40 heavyweights of all time, but he did! This tell serious boxing scirbes / histrians he does not know what he is taliking about.

I post where I wish.

As stated Papa Jack and Unforgivable Blackess write Johnson quit. Deal with it.

I told you to contact the writers, but I can see you don't seem to listen very well.

Now you can press on quouting me and others form ESB posts that are 10+ years old.

First off, what or who is British Mickey Walker? Second, rating fighters is subjective. I don't know McGrains criteria, but I'm sure he could make a compelling case for Walker who has better wins at heavyweight than your hero Vits.

You post where you wish? You don't post on ESB under Mendoza anymore, do you?

Lmao....I actually have sent emails to Randy Roberts and the IBRO concerning this new line of BS. You say it's in both books, tell me what pages and exactly what was said. Than tell me which primary source was used to make the conclusion. Wanna bet you won't?

Why would I use the information I found on the internet? What does it matter how long ago it was? Has something changed from the first time you were forced to admit Johnson didn't quit and that the police stopped it and now? If so please enlighten us. Because from where I stand it sounds like the same old crap you tried to pull there, that you're trying to run with and get away with here. You should be ashamed of yourself. Know when you're beaten.

[JAB5239]

Shmendrik. I was not repyling to you.

Now maybe you can tell me why McGrain is a well known boxing historian.

Maybe you can admit that two book says Johnson quit. One of the goes into details on his process.

Maybe you listen to me and contact the wirtrers as I listed their sources.

But then again I say you won't!

What pages does it say it on, and how exactly is a phrased? Need to know for when my books get here in a couple of days. Wanna bet you don't have an answer for me?

[Biledriver]

What is this obsession with the Free Masons?

It's a Trad Catholic/Evangelical thing.

[Bronson66]

JAB5239 ,

McGrian is a " well known boxing historian ", you say?!

This could be the wildest claim you have made! No boxing historian rates Brittish Mickey Walker in the top 40 heavyweights of all time, but he did! This tell serious boxing scirbes / histrians he does not know what he is taliking about.

I post where I wish.

As stated Papa Jack and Unforgivable Blackess write Johnson quit. Deal with it.

I told you to contact the writers, but I can see you don't seem to listen very well.

Now you can press on quouting me and others form ESB posts that are 10+ years old.

Since you say both these authors state Johnson quit,it should easy for you to post them saying so.
So will you now post those statements?

[JAB5239]

Since you say both these authors state Johnson quit,it should easy for you to post them saying so.
So will you now post those statements?

He isn't gonna give anything because he's got nothing.

[Dr Z]

He isn't gonna give anything because he's got nothing.

I asked AI is Johnson quit in the fight vs. John Haines, known as "Klon***e ". Again two authors say he quit. And AI says:

Yes, Jack Johnson quit in his first fight against John Haines, known as "Klon***e," on May 5, 1899, in Chicago. The bout was Johnson's big-city debut, arranged by promoter P.J. "Paddy" Carroll and his assistant Jack Curley. Johnson, still early in his career, abruptly quit after five rounds, making it an inau****ious start.

You got nothing. If you want to learn about the fight, get Unforgivable Blackness.

[Dr Z]

What pages does it say it on, and how exactly is a phrased? Need to know for when my books get here in a couple of days. Wanna bet you don't have an answer for me?

When you get the book I will add more for you. Then you will admit I am correct. Trust me amigo, I need nothing for you to accept a manly admission. We will see if you give it or not..

[Willie Pep 229]

On ChatGPT

You can lead the AI search.

I asked who won the first Johnson-Haines fight and it said Haines by TKO. Referee stoppage.

Tgen I asked if Johnson quit in the first Haines fight and it said yes, calling it an RTD.

I asked why two different answers and it admitted it found evidence of both events, even claiming it found Johnson saying both.

You can lead the AI search with well placed words.

Or!

Does AI lie to cover up its mistakes? HAL did!