Does anyone still think the old time heavyweights were too small to be competitive in the modern era?

[Bronson66]

This is NOT during camp. This is all year around. During the peak of camp he cranked it up

find another fighter who trains all year around

WRONG!
That was taken from when he was in camp, in training to fight, and taken from an interview with Charley Goldman.

[Bronson66]

You missed a third reason, the most important one. Modern heavyweights are bigger because they don’t have to fight for 15 rounds, a situation where excess size would actually hurt them.

It never affected B Baer,Carnera.Willard or Simon.

[BKM-]

but we donât know if the medicine replaces hard work, we donât know if the weight helps. Louis dismantled many huge fighters with relative ease

Yeah actually we do know. Usyk's wins over Fury had a lot to do with the weight helping. The details of that have already been mentioned several times.

As for Louis, with all due respect to the boxers, he didn't fight any great huge fighters. Primo Carnera was stiff, slow, easy to hit etc. Before the golden era, the best big fighter I would say was Jess Willard judging by his performance against Johnson. He could jab, throw 1-2, move well for many rounds, beat you up in the clinch and was a very tough SOB.

Going back to a hypothetical Louis on PED's, it wouldn't work. He already had slow feet genetically, so he had to make every step forward count. He developed excellent footwork technique to make up for his lack of foot speed. Bulking him up would be a disaster.

That's why the bulk would fail for a lot of those guys. It works well on lean LHW's/CW's who already have fast, athletic movement. Like Evander, David Haye, Usyk. They already had very fast feet and after they bulked up to HW they were still fast. Ultimately that is the advantage of the naturally smaller fighter against a huge opponent: speed.

[Mr Mitts]

This has raised something I would really like to know--if the regimen given by Bronzo--was merely the Rock's "off-season routine," or his training schedule in actual camp. I would be mighty impressed if he did all this while he wasn't in training. His day seems very mapped out like a training camp, even the diet and all the napping.

[Bronson66]

This has raised something I would really like to know--if the regimen given by Bronzo--was merely the Rock's "off-season routine," or his training schedule in actual camp. I would be mighty impressed if he did all this while he wasn't in training. His day seems very mapped out like a training camp, even the diet and all the napping.

It was Marciano's schedule while he was training to fight Walcott in1952.

First-hand account of Marciano's diet and workout regimen (1952) | Boxing News 24 Fan Forum

[IronDanHamza]

WRONG!
That was taken from when he was in camp, in training to fight, and taken from an interview with Charley Goldman.

them_apples Makes something up out of thin air like a weirdo again, what else is new?

This joker legit just makes things up.

[Bronson66]

Jack Johnson was impoverished & lived in the early 20th century.

He wasn't a highly-trained modern athlete with all the "medicine" that today's fighters have.

If he was, he'd be a lot bigger also.

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He looks just fine as he was to me!

[QueensburyRules]

It never affected B Baer,Carnera.Willard or Simon.

- - Obviously the above took a lot of losses sorta like U which explains U addled contributions...

[Bronson66]

- - Obviously the above took a lot of losses sorta like U which explains U addled contributions...

As a troll who never had the balls to get into a ring,what is your excuse for your pitiful posts?

God you are sooooooo eeeeeeasy! lol

[JAB5239]

As a troll who never had the balls to get into a ring,what is your excuse for your pitiful posts?

God you are sooooooo eeeeeeasy! lol

Notice how he quietly crawled away from the Greb thread? Just keep hammering facts at him. He'll troll for a bit more but eventually slink away like cowards do.