Does Fury's Performance With Ngannou Affect His Standing?

[IronDanHamza]

For just one year, in response to massive public criticism of him being a drug cheat. Once people started talking about something else he quickly stopped and has never done it again. Why do you think that is? Do you find it coincidental he stopped just before moving up 2 divisions for the Kovalev fight? We saw how Benn used drugs to help him go up 2 divisions recently, so we know that's a likely time to be using. So he stopped doing the extra testing at the same time he was bulking up. just a coincidence though? He also refused testing for the Chavez fight, he was bulking up 9lbs for that one. Another coincidence!



I already listed fights where he refused testing. You ducked that. He wasn't tested for his last fight. He has started testing late for some fights, by which point he had already cycled off.



I don't believe you are this ****** dude so this is where it's clear you're just acting like a lawyer and being dishonest. Canelo gave Smith 5 weeks notice for their fight. Testing started less than a month from the fight. You don't think he had time to juice? Canelo is using roids at the start of camp so of course he'd have an opening there. If you remember, the Plant fight was actually pushed back to November because Canelo tried the same tactic, Plant insisted on a full 8 weeks of testing and that's the only reason it happened in November. So in 2 of his 3 SMW title wins, there was an issue with testing, and this is the time period that you are giving him all the praise for?

Let's say Canelo did 8 weeks of testing for BJS and Plant. 4 weeks for Smith. You understand there are 52 weeks in a year and therefore he would have 32 weeks left to cheat. "Hard pressed to find much of a window"? 32 weeks is long enough.

What I find sad is that you already know all of this. You were just hoping nobody else pays attention or has a functioning memory.



Canelo is the biggest name in the sport and as his fans always remind people, he gets the A side advantages, he makes the decisions. His decision for several fights has been to not have testing and you still haven't addressed this. Considering that Canelo was caught roiding in the past, he should be tested more, not less.

You say Canelo was tested more than anybody. You say he was tested more than my favourite fighter. Well ok let's see, one of my favourites right now is Shakur. Let's check his recent career:

Upcoming fight with de la Santos: Full VADA testing
Fight with Yoshino: Full VADA testing
Fight with Robson: Full VADA testing
Fight with Valdez: Full VADA testing
Fight with Herring: Full VADA testing

So not so sure Canelo is being more tested than anybody like you claim. Also, Stevenson is the only guy I took the time to search up on. So probably are even more who did VADA for all recent fights if I looked, certainly that's better than Canelo who refused testing for his last fight.

I don't have venom towards Canelo. You don't see me calling him a coward or bitch or anything like that. I'm not going out of my way to create multiple threads on the guy.

I'm sure a lot of boxers cheat, the sport is beyond broken, everyone should be tested all year, same way as in other major sports. But I criticise Canelo and Fury more because they are the 2 elite fighters who have been caught cheating before. If they want fans to believe their future wins are clean, they should be doing 365 testing for the rest of their careers. But despite earning huge money, neither will pay for the testing because both are still roiding. Pretending otherwise is dishonest.

You’re giving him way too much credit in assuming he’s not totally retarded.

He actually genuinely thinks that Canelo’s excuse for testing positive is plausible despite the fact there is zero evidence for that being the case.

I’m fine with that everyone’s entitled to their opinion but he then has the audacity to act like some PED crusader sitting on a high horse every time someone else fails a test, which is comical.

Even in some cases people who haven’t failed tests, such as Ngannou.

It’s comical.

[Willie Pep 229]

So if a fighter uses steroids at the beginning of training camp and then cycles off them for testing, then the roids are TEDs, 'training enhancement drugs,' not PEDs, 'performance enhancing drugs.'

Isn't that different?

We do acknowledge proper use of steroids in rehabilitation after injury. We allow drug enhancement, via steroids, of the healing process.

Should we consider using roids as TEDs, a foul, when used in enhancing training?

In theory, the roids are not in his system come the 'performance.'

[kara]

Irrelevant.

He failed a drug test, plain and simple as day.

Bad wild boar

[QueensburyRules]

Canelo made himself available for 24/7/365 VADA testing after his positive test and suspension. Outside of that stint of year-round testing he has also repeatedly done VADA for almost every single one of his fights, as per the VADA website. Including for 4 training camps in the space of 12 months when he unified all the 168-lb belts. Where you would be hard pressed to find much of a window where he could be cycling on and off.

Jermell Charlo is on video getting blood drawn from VADA leading up to the Canelo fight.

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These are all facts. Not propaganda lies.

So Canelo is easily the most VADA-tested big name fighter in boxing outside of Nonito Donaire. Certainly more tested than whoever your particular favorite fighter is, who I’m sure you have double standards for and thus never direct anywhere this much venom at for his much inferior drug testing schedule.

- - Shoulder, you OK? Never heared you make so much sense before.

Maybe Danny Hambone who adopt your diet, philosophy and works out as he is obviously courting strokes and heart attacks what with his current dripping hatred...

[IronDanHamza]

- - Shoulder, you OK? Never heared you make so much sense before.

Maybe Danny Hambone who adopt your diet, philosophy and works out as he is obviously courting strokes and heart attacks what with his current dripping hatred...

Never heared You two make a good pair of retards.

Canelo failed a VADA drug test, that’s literally a fact I don’t know how to make that any more clear to you, you thick cunt

[GhostofDempsey]

I've never considered him an ATG. He had two impressive wins over Wilder and Wilder did not have any impressive wins over anyone of stature. Fury is a huge heavyweight and his freakish height, weight and reach are difficult to overcome. He had decent upper body movement and footwork for a big fighter but I never considered him to be a great HW.

[kara]

Never heared You two make a good pair of retards.

Canelo failed a VADA drug test, that’s literally a fact I don’t know how to make that any more clear to you, you thick cunt

Shoulder and Queen agree on something?

[max baer]

I've never considered him an ATG. He had two impressive wins over Wilder and Wilder did not have any impressive wins over anyone of stature. Fury is a huge heavyweight and his freakish height, weight and reach are difficult to overcome. He had decent upper body movement and footwork for a big fighter but I never considered him to be a great HW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srh9aX-6rUM
he is a great he just needs something to motivate him badly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Jgiv0LxWI please brother take a chance.
we all part of the masterplan.
see it's 4am in the usa i post early because i know the yanks are sleeping and i am posting it gives me the edge in our debates to know i am posting while the yanks are sleeping in their silk sheets while i am posting in the cold i have the edge over them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fvDv2ltyw0 i got kicked out of midnight mass last christmas for singing this out loud. i don't think they got it. https://genius.com/Robbie-williams-come-undone-lyrics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYB0YPi7L0E fury will cheer up and motivate himself. he won and people acting like he lost. he just needs more determination to really **** kick in the gym.
iron dan hamza is such a misery guts. get all abusive at people over facts and statistics. what about passion? if he watched rocky 1 he'd say "yes but rocky didn't win the fight and so statistics show he never beat a world great. whilst everyone else is cheering the champ in the moment. it aint all about stats and facts. queeny bends the facts without passion. i will prove him wrong as i prove everyone wrong. i have very influentual contacts!!


my guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GoA_aOUpY

[kara]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srh9aX-6rUM
he is a great he just needs something to motivate him badly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Jgiv0LxWI please brother take a chance.
we all part of the masterplan.
see it's 4am in the usa i post early because i know the yanks are sleeping and i am posting it gives me the edge in our debates to know i am posting while the yanks are sleeping in their silk sheets while i am posting in the cold i have the edge over them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fvDv2ltyw0 i got kicked out of midnight mass last christmas for singing this out loud. i don't think they got it. https://genius.com/Robbie-williams-come-undone-lyrics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYB0YPi7L0E fury will cheer up and motivate himself. he won and people acting like he lost. he just needs more determination to really **** kick in the gym.
iron dan hamza is such a misery guts. get all abusive at people over facts and statistics. what about passion? if he watched rocky 1 he'd say "yes but rocky didn't win the fight and so statistics show he never beat a world great. whilst everyone else is cheering the champ in the moment. it aint all about stats and facts. queeny bends the facts without passion. i will prove him wrong as i prove everyone wrong. i have very influentual contacts!!


my guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GoA_aOUpY

I knew Nathan would come back strong

[max baer]

I knew Nathan would come back strong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-X91IstwqA very good one play with words kara!!! great song that too!