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  • #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - Usyk an Olympic Heavy Gold Medal been fighting against 200+ fighters most of his life as an adult has a better pro record than Holyfield whose 26-10-2 record at heavy was briefly exciting in a sorta perverse way, but quickly petered out though he kept fighting when he should've been retired.

    Jeeez, Usyk bigger than some 70% of heavy champs in history...duh!!!

    AJ switched styles against a very dangerous Fat Andy to pitch a vicious shutout that most heavy champs in history could not endure to win back his unified titles that we have AJ to thank for making all the best fights in his era that is still ongoing.

    Fury at his best is formidable, but he seems to have some innate inferiority complex when tasked to fight AJ and Usyk not to mention the Wlad rematch. Been spitting his dummy against those fighters too hot for him to handle for years now.
    C'mon, man. you know "modern medicine" is why everybody's bigger today than they were 50 years ago. As I've posted in other threads, Americans and other first worlders stopped growing taller in the 1970s.

    Usyk struggled at times against Chazz Witherspoon & Del boy Chisora over 200lbs.

    Cruiserweight is probably considered the weakest division in boxing's history, you know that.

    Not to say that Usyk isn't a bad boy, he's my P4P #1, but let's get a grip, Holyfield was beating Hall of Famers like Dwight Muhammad Qawi & Rid**** Bowe, Usyk hasn't beaten 1 hall of famer yet.

    If he beats Fury, it will be his first.

    And the only thing Andy Ruiz is dangerous to is a refrigerator.

    A 9000 year old Ortiz outboxed him for much of their fight.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Since Usyk turned pro, he's been fighting top fighters, top 10s, undisputed, and now unified undefeated Champ while mostly doing it on the road, and never took the beatings and losses of Vander, 26-10-2.

      You seem to have a predilection to beating dead horses...
      What HOF fighter has he fought? What legend? What fighter that will be a top 20 all time heavyweight? Maybe he will, but time isn't on his side and AJ isn't going to give him those accolades.

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      • #63
        Looks like the fight is NOT HAPPENING.... at least next.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by markusmod View Post
          Looks like the fight is NOT HAPPENING.... at least next.
          such a shame if fight doesnt happen such a damn shame. i hope they fight soon.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by markusmod View Post
            Looks like the fight is NOT HAPPENING.... at least next.
            The WBA have extended their timeline for agreement to April1st.Usyk has agreed to every fresh demand Fury has made,I don't think he wants this fight.The next mandatory for Usyk is Dubois and talks will apparently be starting soon.The blame for this fight not happening now rests squarely with Fury.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              What HOF fighter has he fought? What legend? What fighter that will be a top 20 all time heavyweight? Maybe he will, but time isn't on his side and AJ isn't going to give him those accolades.
              I think Usyk is a hall of fame fighter when you review his professioal career, which isn't over yet.

              Fighters just do not fight enough these days.

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              • #67

                And the only thing Andy Ruiz is dangerous to is a refrigerator.

                A 9000 year old Ortiz outboxed him for much of their fight.
                Finds the comment dangerous refrigerator to be funny and accurate. Ruiz jr is junk these days. He bet a chinny and old man in Ortiz. I was hoping that Ruiz jr would fight Hrgovic . Hrogvic would whip his over rated and fat Ass, but fat Andy said no thanks for a chance at the IBF belt. Meanwhile " the refrigerator " has no next fight.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                  I think Usyk is a hall of fame fighter when you review his professioal career, which isn't over yet.

                  Fighters just do not fight enough these days.
                  He very well may be. But his level of competition is just not on par with Holyfield. Will be at the end of his career? Hard to say. But saying he has a better heavyweight record than Evander right now is pure lunacy.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    He very well may be. But his level of competition is just not on par with Holyfield. Will be at the end of his career? Hard to say. But saying he has a better heavyweight record than Evander right now is pure lunacy.
                    Yes it is. It's best to wait until his career is over. But if it ended now, IMO he is a HOF fighter.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post


                      Finds the comment dangerous refrigerator to be funny and accurate. Ruiz jr is junk these days. He bet a chinny and old man in Ortiz. I was hoping that Ruiz jr would fight Hrgovic . Hrogvic would whip his over rated and fat Ass, but fat Andy said no thanks for a chance at the IBF belt. Meanwhile " the refrigerator " has no next fight.
                      When posters refer to fighters who are top 10 of their era as chinny old men and Junk....it begs questions about that poster's worth to a conversation. And I think you are way better than that. Seriously. You can not get into boxing's top 1% being junk. You don't need me to tell you that Sir.
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