Fury vs Usyk - Historic Impact??

[Willie Pep 229]

I hear you. If they can't get this Fury-Usyk thing done I'm gonna be pissed off. If this was MMA Dana White would tell them both, "The fight is May xx, you're gettin 1.3 million each. Be there in top shape or you're FIRED!"

Yea he would and that would be a bad thing.

Fighters should fight who they want, when they want, where they want, and not at all if they please.

This isn't baseball or basketball. You know these men get beat up. That is a brutal thing.

No man should ever be forced into a fight; no fighter should ever be in a poistion to be fired.

Like all promoters Dana White is only interested in Dana White.

If the fight never happens then the fight never happens. These fighters owe us nothing.

[markusmod]

The WBA have extended their timeline for agreement to April1st.Usyk has agreed to every fresh demand Fury has made,I don't think he wants this fight.The next mandatory for Usyk is Dubois and talks will apparently be starting soon.The blame for this fight not happening now rests squarely with Fury.

Both camps said the fight is dead

[Bundana]

How do we define all-time great?.

I don't know.

You say: "I think that there are no all-time great fighters today because guys don't fight high competition quite enough." Which is why I asked, if a win over Fury would be what it takes, for him to be seen as an ATG fighter, in your opinion.

[QueensburyRules]

I don't know.

You say: "I think that there are no all-time great fighters today because guys don't fight high competition quite enough." Which is why I asked, if a win over Fury would be what it takes, for him to be seen as an ATG fighter, in your opinion.

- - Both Usyk and AJ future HOFers with or without Fury.

ATG has no Hall save Valhalla that few mortals have ever glimpsed. Since both AJ and Usyk not to mention Fat Andy who manned up to AJ American Debut when Fury and the rest of the Ring rated clowns ran for their mommies, they will be matched well in Valhalla with all the greats currently in training for when that time comes...only in boxing, folks...

[max baer]

He very well may be. But his level of competition is just not on par with Holyfield. Will be at the end of his career? Hard to say. But saying he has a better heavyweight record than Evander right now is pure lunacy.

i think in the 90's fights got made between the best fighters because fighters wanted to prove themselves the best like lewis holyfield etc but now it's more like wrestling in that it's built and built but never happens and if it does we all agree one of them at least is past it. in the nineties they just got the fights done. they were all in las vegas too as my body clock remembers well staying up all night with popcorn and beer to see it unfold live.
i think i like it that way as i grew up as a kid watching title fights from las vegas and loved it. so i wish it to still be that way. especially when british fans arrive in vegas and start singing and chanting like bruno against tyson. i suppose we love our childhoods and want things to stay that way. but vegas knows how to put on a great nights entertainment and staying up all night for the fight has been something i really enjoyed doing since i was a kid.

[max baer]

Yea he would and that would be a bad thing.

Fighters should fight who they want, when they want, where they want, and not at all if they please.

This isn't baseball or basketball. You know these men get beat up. That is a brutal thing.

No man should ever be forced into a fight; no fighter should ever be in a poistion to be fired.

Like all promoters Dana White is only interested in Dana White.

If the fight never happens then the fight never happens. These fighters owe us nothing.

very true. they owe us nothing it's their health not ours. shame it is though. i back fury in whatever he chooses as he has done enough for one man already.

[Dr. Z]

Both camps said the fight is dead

Fury is a fraud. He asked for 75% and the fight is his backyard stadium. Usyk said okay to these terms. Yet we have no fight. Fury is a coward. Just like he was supposed to fight the non top ten ranked Agit Kabayel in December 2021. The fight never happened. Why? Not that he is very good, but he was young and in his prime so that DQ's him from being a Fury opponent!

He can fight some bum like fighter again for all I care the 2nd or 3rd time who is past his best. Big Belly has no bottle. Now he might fight the exposed Ruiz who if anyone saw survived a fight vs. a 40 year old Arreola while being knocked down , and a 43+ year old Ortiz, barely edging him on the cards!

Ruiz is not the same fighter he was 4 years ago when he upset Joshua. He passed on the IBF world title fight ( he would have got his fat rear end kicked by Hrgovic ) and has slipped enough to entice big belly to fight him.

[max baer]

When posters refer to fighters who are top 10 of their era as chinny old men and Junk....it begs questions about that poster's worth to a conversation. And I think you are way better than that. Seriously. You can not get into boxing's top 1% being junk. You don't need me to tell you that Sir.

I'll have you right there Willow. Andy Ruiz jr looks like nothing but man can he fight. to become heavyweight champ no matter how brief takes amazing dedication and talent. i bet he gives motivation to overweight young men the world over.

[max baer]

- - When Ali retired, he had neither beat nor fought a single HOF fighter.

It's fine if you want to be an unstudied fan rah rah fan empty of any knowledge like the vast unwashed hordes of the world...

i love listening to you queeny you always cheer me up! keep up i love your attitude!
why not just jump to the logical conclusion of all online forum debate in history. call him a **** and question his mental health then write a line about how sad and pathetic he is. you cannot lose it is the end arguement off all forum arguements there has ever been!!!
love your attitude!

[Ivich]

Yea he would and that would be a bad thing.

Fighters should fight who they want, when they want, where they want, and not at all if they please.

This isn't baseball or basketball. You know these men get beat up. That is a brutal thing.

No man should ever be forced into a fight; no fighter should ever be in a poistion to be fired.

Like all promoters Dana White is only interested in Dana White.

If the fight never happens then the fight never happens. These fighters owe us nothing.

But it would be nice if fighters who had no serious intention of facing another fighter did not continually price themselves out of fights they do not fancy,all the while calling their prospective opponent who has agreed to their every unreasonable demand,a coward.

This fight is not happening and never was
Fury's trainer has done no work with him whatsoever and had not been asked to do so, he is only in the UK to train Okolie,a fact he confirmed himself yesterday.
I have no respect for Fury,he is like his Father, full of ****.
Put a mic in front of him and he will say anything,then contradict himself the next day.
**** Or Get Off The Pot!!!