Fury vs Usyk - Historic Impact??

[Ivich]

- - When Ali retired, he had neither beat nor fought a single HOF fighter.

It's fine if you want to be an unstudied fan rah rah fan empty of any knowledge like the vast unwashed hordes of the world...

But quite a few since.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - Both Usyk and AJ future HOFers with or without Fury.

ATG has no Hall save Valhalla that few mortals have ever glimpsed. Since both AJ and Usyk not to mention Fat Andy who manned up to AJ American Debut when Fury and the rest of the Ring rated clowns ran for their mommies, they will be matched well in Valhalla with all the greats currently in training for when that time comes...only in boxing, folks...

Valhalla? The Next active heavyweights going there are Robert Helenius and Otto Wallin.
Ingemar Johannson, Gunnar Barlund, Otto von Porat, Skanska Slagbjornen, Olle Tandberg, Harry Persson, Carl Neilsen, Lennart Risberg, Ring Larsson, Nils Ramm, Anders Eklund, Jarl Jonsen, Soren Peterson, Knute Hansen, Bjorn Rudi, Nils Andersson, Raimo Nisula, Emil Ecklund (Kracken), Thoerner Ahsman, Arne Andersson, Lars Norling, Ilkka Rikhard Koski, Johnny Widlund and Erik "The Red" Thorvaldsson himself will be there to greet them.

[markusmod]

Fury is a fraud. He asked for 75% and the fight is his backyard stadium. Usyk said okay to these terms. Yet we have no fight. Fury is a coward. Just like he was supposed to fight the non top ten ranked Agit Kabayel in December 2021. The fight never happened. Why? Not that he is very good, but he was young and in his prime so that DQ's him from being a Fury opponent!

He can fight some bum like fighter again for all I care the 2nd or 3rd time who is past his best. Big Belly has no bottle. Now he might fight the exposed Ruiz who if anyone saw survived a fight vs. a 40 year old Arreola while being knocked down , and a 43+ year old Ortiz, barely edging him on the cards!

Ruiz is not the same fighter he was 4 years ago when he upset Joshua. He passed on the IBF world title fight ( he would have got his fat rear end kicked by Hrgovic ) and has slipped enough to entice big belly to fight him.

To be fair, Usyk can't sell 10 tickets for as good as he is. He's always been the far and away B-side fighting in his opponent's backyard.

[Dr. Z]

To be fair, Usyk can't sell 10 tickets for as good as he is. He's always been the far and away B-side fighting in his opponent's backyard.

He can sell tickets normally. Fury has 80,000 most drunk fans that are still with him. ( are they? ) They can fill a soccer stadium. They will watch him fight the washed up and fat men. Usky's country men and fans will support him, but traveling to London unfortunately for 99% of the population is not going to happen, they are at war.

[QueensburyRules]

To be fair, Usyk can't sell 10 tickets for as good as he is. He's always been the far and away B-side fighting in his opponent's backyard.

- - At his height, Ukraine currently a dangerous place to be. Just because he was fighting away from home don't make him the B side. Lot of prestige for fighters to fight such a credentialed legend.

No, he could never be AJ-A side, but easily was Blubbers A side as he proved in negotiations that has seen Blubber in a full meltdown of rare glare without the need of Usyk to throw a single punch. Bit like Jake Paul KOing little tommy twice with nary a punch thrown before they ever met officially.

That's the Fury clan history, one of meltdowns with chickens always coming home to roost...only in boxing, folks...

[markusmod]

He can sell tickets normally. Fury has 80,000 most drunk fans that are still with him. ( are they? ) They can fill a soccer stadium. They will watch him fight the washed up and fat men. Usky's country men and fans will support him, but traveling to London unfortunately for 99% of the population is not going to happen, they are at war.

Every guy Usyk fought in the UK, they sold 95% of the tickets. It's just a fact. Mosley had the same curse his entire career, he never sold tickets and was always second fiddle to De La Hoya and others, even when beating them.

[QueensburyRules]

But quite a few since.

- - Prorated retroactively, yes, that's the whole point that I was making...

[Willow The Wisp]

- - When Ali retired, he had neither beat nor fought a single HOF fighter.

It's fine if you want to be an unstudied fan rah rah fan empty of any knowledge like the vast unwashed hordes of the world...

The hecks amatter with you?
Ali announced his retirement on June 27, 1979. In 1954, the Ring magazine established its own boxing Hall of Fame,located at Madison Square Garden in New York City and it had inducted 155 members before it was abandoned after the 1987 inductions.
The modern IBHOF had its first annual induction in 1990, and Ali was the first to be inducted, and rightly so. Bob Foster, Joe Frazier and Archie Moore were also part of the inaugural class, all Ali opponents. The following year they were joined by Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson. Ken Norton, George Foreman and Larry Holmes would follow. Doug Jones, Henry Cooper, Zora Folley, Cleveland Williams, Jerry Quarry and Leon Spinks have all entered discussions for ballot compilation inclusion (which you can't Google). So what are you on about? Don't you know that Muhammad Ali is the Greatest????

[Willow The Wisp]

Now I wonder what else to expect. Joyce handled Dubois, but is Usyk able to? All the love he gets, he ought to be able to.
How about Fury? What's he thinking?? All he needs to cement his place in the pantheon are a few more performances like the drubbing of Whyte, who many felt was going to unseat him, if you'll recall.
Who will the most dangerous of them, Deontay Wilder KO next?
And how about Joshua? 2 of 5? Seriously? How many rounds do we give him to get rid of Franklin before he falls another notch and comes up about even with also-rans of his era like Luis Ortiz, Chris Arreola and Joseph Parker in legacy??

[QueensburyRules]

The hecks amatter with you?
Ali announced his retirement on June 27, 1979. In 1954, the Ring magazine established its own boxing Hall of Fame,located at Madison Square Garden in New York City and it had inducted 155 members before it was abandoned after the 1987 inductions.
The modern IBHOF had its first annual induction in 1990, and Ali was the first to be inducted, and rightly so. Bob Foster, Joe Frazier and Archie Moore were also part of the inaugural class, all Ali opponents. The following year they were joined by Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson. Ken Norton, George Foreman and Larry Holmes would follow. Doug Jones, Henry Cooper, Zora Folley, Cleveland Williams, Jerry Quarry and Leon Spinks have all entered discussions for ballot compilation inclusion (which you can't Google). So what are you on about? Don't you know that Muhammad Ali is the Greatest????

- - How is Wlad gonna get into Ring HOF?

Already know about IBHOF inductions that Ali, Wlad and others are in.

Losing the plot?