Some who've actually seen em' are calling Tyson Fury the best ever.

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #151
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - What I hold against Lewie is the obvious, ie his feigned intelligence, feigned greatness after whooping the 4 round trained, 3 ring circus of Psychiatric drugged Tyson, and his feigned willingness to rematch Vit only if Vit jumped through all the rematch precondition gauntlets that Vit had to run through.

    In other words, he sat on his last belt holding it hostage for as long as he could before strippage.

    Now, if you think that's a mark of a great fighter, more power to you...
    - - Just to point out the obvious to new bots in the history section...

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    • Slugfester
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      #152
      Back from hiatus. Long thread. Just read the latest letters..

      Any measure short of the entire career to reflect on in retrospect is a one armed man, if all these other criteria like longevity and consistency are added to the mix. That's why I love to keeo it simple it simple and just try to decide who wins in a match at their best. The biggest help with this measure is their quality of competition. Were they able to beat a well rounded bunch?

      Since everyone on Fury's resume was a B fighter before four years ago, and he hardly ever fights, it is hard to evaluate his all time standing--not enough information. Most people agree WK was over the hill a ways. We will get more info with each fight, if the gypsy has ant ore.

      Right no w I lean toward Usyk. Fury really knows how to use the tools he has. He seems to be a great ring general. No one can beat him easily, unless he comes out of shape. But his jab is a fake jab. He uses it to rub an open glove in the opponent's​ mug and momentarily blind him while he utilizes his view to decide where the right should go.

      That tactic will probably not work against the Slav, since he will be moved out of the way before the rubbing achieves its object, and already launching his counters.

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      • Incapable
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        #153
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        Don't drink the kool-aid. Vits had as much time to prepare for Lewis as Lennox had to prepare for him. Difference being Lewis came in at a career high and still won.
        Spot on pal.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Incapable

          Spot on pal.
          - - Brown spots on you undies again, is it?

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            #155
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Brown spots on you undies again, is it?
            'You Undies'??

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              #156
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - My dear boy, Lewie invited Manny to England to evaluate his month long self training before flying to LA for a full 6 week camp.

              Vit was brought in on 3 weeks to replace Tyson who ditched the shaky 10 rd promotion on the undercard. A week later Kirk Johnson mysteriously hurts his tltty, and after 3 winning civil suits vs Lewie, Vit promoted to the main event.

              10 weeks training vs 3 weeks training with a 2 week notice of a 12 rd title upgrade...yer welcome...
              i love the cut of your jib! and i thought you were a real bindlestiff!!!!
              Last edited by max baer; 04-04-2023, 09:18 AM.

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              • shawnkemp804
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                #157
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                Wait, I thought you said a 180 fighter couldn't stay with a modern HW?

                My God what if it had been that "bum" Marciano instead of Steve Cunningham, who hit him. What then?
                Tyson Fury isn't good little kid which is why he was knocked down by a modern cruiserweight. Second Marciano is still a bum. Steve Cunnigham would of knocked out Marciano in the first round.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Don't drink the kool-aid. Vits had as much time to prepare for Lewis as Lennox had to prepare for him. Difference being Lewis came in at a career high and still won.
                  Vitali was scheduled to be in the semi .You are correct.

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                  • Willie Pep 229
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by shawnkemp804

                    Tyson Fury isn't good little kid which is why he was knocked down by a modern cruiserweight. Second Marciano is still a bum. Steve Cunnigham would of knocked out Marciano in the first round.
                    As that I don't fall further behind . . . please share with me your wisdom.

                    So far what I got from you is:

                    That 180 lb fighter can't hope to complete against the super HWs of today.

                    But then you shared with us that at 180 lb fighter put Tyson Fury on the canvas.

                    But, but then you said this KD doesn't mean anything because Tyson Fury, a 6' 8" - 280 lb - undefeated HW Champion is a bum.

                    So if we put the three statements side-by-side we discover . . . you're an ass.

                    A total waste of time.

                    I ask in earnest, is this pointless baiting and trolling the only thing you got to do today?

                    Watch some TV, read a book, rub one out, whatever it is, just try to keep your sadness with the world, to yourself.


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                    • JAB5239
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                      As that I don't fall further behind . . . please share with me your wisdom.

                      So far what I got from you is:

                      That 180 lb fighter can't hope to complete against the super HWs of today.

                      But then you shared with us that at 180 lb fighter put Tyson Fury on the canvas.

                      But, but then you said this KD doesn't mean anything because Tyson Fury, a 6' 8" - 280 lb - undefeated HW Champion is a bum.

                      So if we put the three statements side-by-side we discover . . . you're an ass.

                      A total waste of time.

                      I ask in earnest, is this pointless baiting and trolling the only thing you got to do today?

                      Watch some TV, read a book, rub one out, whatever it is, just try to keep your sadness with the world, to yourself.

                      ..........

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