Some who've actually seen em' are calling Tyson Fury the best ever.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Best Mob Heavyweight~Tyson Fury vs Sonny Liston...well???

[shawnkemp804]

As that I don't fall further behind . . . please share with me your wisdom.

So far what I got from you is:

That 180 lb fighter can't hope to complete against the super HWs of today.

But then you shared with us that at 180 lb fighter put Tyson Fury on the canvas.

But, but then you said this KD doesn't mean anything because Tyson Fury, a 6' 8" - 280 lb - undefeated HW Champion is a bum.

So if we put the three statements side-by-side we discover . . . you're an ass.

A total waste of time.

I ask in earnest, is this pointless baiting and trolling the only thing you got to do today?

Watch some TV, read a book, rub one out, whatever it is, just try to keep your sadness with the world, to yourself.

Lol Tyson Fury isn't 6'8. Tyson Fury is 6'7 and Tyson Fury isn't a natural 280 pound guy he is a natural 240 pound guy who is fat. Second there is no such thing as a super heavyweight. Third I said 5'10 180 pound fighters from the past couldn't compete against modern heavyweights. The last time I checked Steve Cunnigham isn't from the 1950's and before. Fifth the fact you think Tyson Fury is 6'8 and 280 shows you don't anything about boxing and the fact that you think 5'10 180 pound Marciano could compete against any world class elite 200 plus pound heavyweight tells me everything I need to know about you. 6th I am ignoring anything else you type.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Best Mob Heavyweight~Tyson Fury vs Sonny Liston...well???

Na! --> go traditional --> Carnera-Liston!

Big mob fight.

Owney "The Killer" Madden (circa 1933) --> the Cotton Club --> held Carnera's contract and has his flunkie Frenchy LeMange in the Ampling Alp's corner

Vs.

The Lucchese Crime Family (circa 1955) --> Frankie Carbo (influencer) International Boxing Club (IBC) holds control over Liston --> with flunkie Blinky Perlamo in Liston's corner.

That's the big mob fight.

British mob has no romance to it - all the characters look like a bad Jason Statham impersonation.

You just can't compare the British mobs to the Italians, Irish, and ***ish mobs of old.

This is the weakest mob era ever.

[QueensburyRules]

Lol Tyson Fury isn't 6'8. Tyson Fury is 6'7 and Tyson Fury isn't a natural 280 pound guy he is a natural 240 pound guy who is fat.

- - That makes Deyonce 6-5, and McDermott 5-10 and so on with U a pipsqueak...sorted...

[shawnkemp804]

- - That makes Deyonce 6-5, and McDermott 5-10 and so on with U a pipsqueak...sorted...

Lol here is a picture of the listed 6'8 David Price and Tyson Fury. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...ht-David-Price Tyson Fury is 6'7 if not shorter. Now you are also get ignored for boring me.

[QueensburyRules]

Lol here is a picture of the listed 6'8 David Price and Tyson Fury. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...ht-David-Price Tyson Fury is 6'7 if not shorter. Now you are also get ignored for boring me.

- - Qazzillion pics of 6-7 Blubber and 6-5 Deyonce in boxing attire ready to fight. Yeah, 6-5 Blubber makes Deyonce 6-3.

Of course if U was 4-10 that would make 4-6 1/2 on this forum...sorted again for clarification.

[ReyReyYes]

Yeah, of today's fighters, he is definitely the most spectacular. Sure, there were some great fighters out there too, but Fury really makes the sport fun again.

[Dr. Z]

I have a KO Magazine article explaining how Michael Moorer will likely be unbeatable for the near future and will hold the title for several years.

I suspect that writer was considered 'in the know' having seen them all too.

The "U Guys" (those believed unbeatable) has a short list, so Fury making that list is impressive but in the end they all lose before they're suspose to.

Betting against Fury in the next couple of fights may bear fruit if the odds are long enough.

Boxing History's U Guys

Sullivan
Jeffries
Dempsey
Louis
Liston
Foreman
Ali
Tyson

All, at onetime, thought unbeatable.

As erratic as Fury's personality is I suspect his number will come up sooner than later.

Most of those guys beat ranked contenders. I use ring magazine, which offers monthly an annual contenders staring in 1924. By this standard, Tyson Fury has beaten very few ranked contenders under 34 years old that and in and in good shape. Only Wilder qualifies as one, and if he fought other ranked contenders he would be less thought of. The foundation of Tyson Fury's ranking is very weak. Forget his " undefeated " record every body knows he lost to fat John McDermott and was suspect in a few fights. The fact that he is a PED drug chat as a professional and if a known fouler who has been deducted 5 points in points seperate fights diminishes his already shallow accomplishments.

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th...Annual_Ratings

[QueensburyRules]

Most of those guys beat ranked contenders. I use ring magazine, which offers monthly an annual contenders staring in 1924. By this standard, Tyson Fury has beaten very few ranked contenders under 34 years old that and in and in good shape. Only Wilder qualifies as one, and if he fought other ranked contenders he would be less thought of. The foundation of Tyson Fury's ranking is very weak. Forget his " undefeated " record every body knows he lost to fat John McDermott and was suspect in a few fights. The fact that he is a PED drug chat as a professional and if a known fouler who has been deducted 5 points in points seperate fights diminishes his already shallow accomplishments.

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th...Annual_Ratings

- - Pep, not to defend Blubber, but rather stay true to the truth, and truth is Blubber either KOed or DQed McD in the last round according to the rules of boxing.

Not gonna spoil it for you in case you want to see yourself, but the ref the notorious Terry Oconner, one of the top 50 worst refs in history.
https://boxrec.com/en/referee/18102

[Willow The Wisp]

Lol here is a picture of the listed 6'8 David Price and Tyson Fury. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...ht-David-Price Tyson Fury is 6'7 if not shorter. Now you are also get ignored for boring me.

Fury is 6"9", David Price 6'8" accurate figures. Fury has lower shoe heals, standing with feet apart. Whatever.
i really wish Pricey had panned out better.