Why was Ali's return from exile that much more successful than Tysons?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #81
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    Yes we have the footage available with Ali saying "get me a contract ". But the fight couldn't happen because Ali would have his license taken away. When it could happen Wilt never showed to sign the contract.
    - - When it could've happened again, both past prime with Wilt still the apex $ man now using Ali as an NBA negotiating tactic for increased pay.

    Ali didn't have his license pulled until much later well after his refusal to sign on the ABC/Cosell segment.

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      #82
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - - When it could've happened again, both past prime with Wilt still the apex $ man now using Ali as an NBA negotiating tactic for increased pay.

      Ali didn't have his license pulled until much later well after his refusal to sign on the ABC/Cosell segment.
      You're still an idiot. They went on the show in March of '67. Ali lost his boxing license the next month. So no, Ali could not have ducked Chamberlain. Wilt however did no show when the fight could be made. Facts!!

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        #83
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        You're still an idiot. They went on the show in March of '67. Ali lost his boxing license the next month. So no, Ali could not have ducked Chamberlain. Wilt however did no show when the fight could be made. Facts!!
        Of course they are, but we all know he's not one to let facts get in the way of a good (BS) story.

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          #84
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          You're still an idiot. They went on the show in March of '67. Ali lost his boxing license the next month. So no, Ali could not have ducked Chamberlain. Wilt however did no show when the fight could be made. Facts!!
          - - The Cosell segment had Ali around the Folley fight with license intact, hence the signing segment orchestrated by Cosell where Ali suddenly gets cold, still licensed feet.

          Thanks for the reminder. U precious.

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            #85
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - The Cosell segment had Ali around the Folley fight with license intact, hence the signing segment orchestrated by Cosell where Ali suddenly gets cold, still licensed feet.

            Thanks for the reminder. U precious.
            No, you're wrong again...as usual. Link please.

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              #86
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - The Cosell segment had Ali around the Folley fight with license intact, hence the signing segment orchestrated by Cosell where Ali suddenly gets cold, still licensed feet.

              Thanks for the reminder. U precious.
              The whole damn thing was staged. Ali was giving a 'brother' leverage to negotiate with the NBA owners; rich white men. It was the 1960s and Ali was a racial activist.

              Wilt said that he talked-out the fight with his father and his father's negative reply convinced him to shake off the thought. But he went through with the Cosell show because it would give him power to negotiate.

              It was a win-win-win, all three got air time and national attention.

              I wouldn't be suprise if the contract was nothing more than a stage prop that Cosell pulled out just to keep the show lively, and Ali was probably legitimately surprise by its appearance becu6se Cosell was that type of guy.

              The best part of the whole damn thing was watching 5' 4" Anglo Dundee try to measure Wilt's reach; a SNL skit begging to bust out.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                The whole damn thing was staged. Ali was giving a 'brother' leverage to negotiate with the NBA owners; rich white men. It was the 1960s and Ali was a racial activist.

                Wilt said that he talked-out the fight with his father and his father's negative reply convinced him to shake off the thought. But he went through with the Cosell show because it would give him power to negotiate.

                It was a win-win-win, all three got air time and national attention.

                I wouldn't be suprise if the contract was nothing more than a stage prop that Cosell pulled out just to keep the show lively, and Ali was probably legitimately surprise by its appearance becu6se Cosell was that type of guy.

                The best part of the whole damn thing was watching 5' 4" Anglo Dundee try to measure Wilt's reach; a SNL skit begging to bust out.
                Asked what he thought by Wilt about his chances with Ali his father said "stick with free throws".
                Last edited by JAB5239; 04-25-2022, 10:56 AM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  No, you're wrong again...as usual. Link please.
                  - - Geez, I quoted U, senor.

                  U too 'toopid to know what U stated, not even pearls before swine quality.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    Asked what he thought by Wilt about his chances with Ali his father said "stick with free throws".
                    Yea but you missed the important word 'practice' your free throws.

                    I don't mean to pull age in you but the Dad's off hand irrelevant remark was based on how terrible Wilt was at free throws. In the early years he use to throw the ball underhand like a kid, later he shot overhand but moved back to the top of the key. He just kept throwing the ball too hard.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - Geez, I quoted U, senor.

                      U too 'toopid to know what U stated, not even pearls before swine quality.
                      You said Ali didn't have his license pulled till much later. The FACT is it happened the very next month. This is very easy to look up.

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