Why was Ali's return from exile that much more successful than Tysons?

[Ivich]

Competitive?

Yes certainly competitive .close? NO.

[Ivich]

- - Be a good boy and a new set of spectacles be under the tree for your Christmas.

• Unofficial AP scorecard: 10-5 Ali
• Unofficial UPI scorecard: 8-6-1 Ali

[Ivich]

That's false. There's at least 17 people who agree with me that Shavers won on this link alone:

http://eyeonthering.com/boxing/muhammad-ali-vs-earnie-shavers

Then we have the thousands of fans who actually booed the decision at the fight. Sportswriter Jerry Izenberg had the fight even after the 14th, much closer in his view.

From a Sports Illustrated article after the fight, it seems quite a few had Ernie "Far ahead" after 12 rounds. Remember, this fight had open scoring which was announced after each round.

Ali's 22nd title fight was televised by NBC, and as an extra attraction the network had arranged to flash the official scoring on the screen after every round. Such an obvious edge was not lost on Angelo Dundee, Ali's smart little trainer, who posted Baltimore matchmaker Eddie Hrica in the champion's dressing quarters to watch the TV set there and relay the numbers after each round. And so, after 12 rounds, Dundee knew the only way Shavers could beat his man was by a knockout.

Across the ring Shavers was being given quite a different picture. Near the challenger's corner were several members of his home-state Ohio Boxing Commission, two reporters and José Sulaiman, the president of the World Boxing Council. All were scoring the fight and they all reported regularly to Luca that they had Shavers far in the lead. No sweat. Don't take any chances, Earnie. In truth, it was not an easy fight to score. Ali's fights of late seldom have been.

• Unofficial AP scorecard: 10-5 Ali
• Unofficial UPI scorecard: 8-6-1 Ali
• Izenberg gave the fight to Ali.

[QueensburyRules]

• Unofficial AP scorecard: 10-5 Ali
• Unofficial UPI scorecard: 8-6-1 Ali

- - The people ain't crook judges or drunk sportswriters.

No champ had more disputed title fights than Ali.

[Ivich]

- - The people ain't crook judges or drunk sportswriters.

No champ had more disputed title fights than Ali.

Oh we are back to drunken sportswriters?Presumably these would only be the ones that voted for Ali? Those that scored if for Shavers would all have been stone cold sober!lol

[QueensburyRules]

Oh we are back to drunken sportswriters?Presumably these would only be the ones that voted for Ali? Those that scored if for Shavers would all have been stone cold sober!lol

- - I would've stopped the fight. It was clear Ali shouldn't be fighting anymore. Shoulda retired after being exposed by Wepner and we wouldn't have his tragedy.

[Ivich]

- - I would've stopped the fight. It was clear Ali shouldn't be fighting anymore. Shoulda retired after being exposed by Wepner and we wouldn't have his tragedy.

I think he should have retired after Manila, but by then the neurological damage may have already been done.We know his kidneys were beginning to pack up on him.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - I would've stopped the fight. It was clear Ali shouldn't be fighting anymore. Shoulda retired after being exposed by Wepner and we wouldn't have his tragedy.

Lol. Wepner. I approve this troll message.

[Ivich]

- - The people ain't crook judges or drunk sportswriters.

No champ had more disputed title fights than Ali.

Crooked judges like
Harold Lederman
Tony Castellano
Tony Lobianco
Arthur Mercante
lol.

[Willow The Wisp]

I think he should have retired after Manila, but by then the neurological damage may have already been done.We know his kidneys were beginning to pack up on him.

You wonder where Ferdie Pacheco was in all of this, privately.