Why was Ali's return from exile that much more successful than Tysons?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #141
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    So Ali lost the last round and that now equates to losing the whole fight? Only in Queenie dreamland folks!!
    - - Your ****** words, not mine. Ali's chin proved to be better than that of his health in marked, morbid decline post Foreman.

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    • JAB5239
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      #142
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - - Your ****** words, not mine. Ali's chin proved to be better than that of his health in marked, morbid decline post Foreman.
      I'm sure his health was in decline before Foreman as he had been in some wars. And he still beat George!!

      So if those words weren't what you meant, what was the point of them? Did it change the fact Ali won unanimously?

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      • JAB5239
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        #143
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        No, you said Wilt started training in 1965. Who was training him? We know Cus approached him. Nothing says he was training him. If you didn't make this up than please provide the proof.
        Still waiting.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

          Landry never goes that far outside the box. Hayes actually came through the football system not out of track & field. Landry did show long term vision with Staubach, that he gets kudos for, but Wilt is too far outside for a guy driven by numbers and strategies.

          Now Al Davis, he's your guy. Drafts a punter in the first round (Ray Guy) and buys BO as a partime running back.

          He's the guy who would take a shot at Wilt at TE.

          P.S. Why do you think the years are off? Wilt came up into the NBA just as Landry was building the Cowboys. I would say the timing was just right.
          - - Landry still a green coach then had all he could handle building a team from scratch. He instituted physiological data profiles on all his players in a computer format and the first to implement off season weight training as well as improvising new formations. Once they got where they could compete with GreenBay is around when most of the improvising started that met a lot of resistance in decades of traditional practices now scrapped.

          Ex, Hershel Walker the only Cowboy exempt from pre and post season training, reason being Hershel was a one off phenom with his own extensive workout program more strenuous than that of the Cowboys. Landry was the intellect Wilt needed for the respect to undergo tutoring to become a tight end. He'd have been the biggest, tallest, and fastest tight end in football, but eventually Wilt developed knee problems playing basketball, so likely they'd have been exaggerated playing football.

          Boxing save for misapplied running programs doesn't have to worry about knee problems, and at any rate, Wilt was like Herschel in always being in shape, so all he really needed was tutoring by Cus on the specific style and traits of Ali for one fight. It's debatable he would've even defended the title since boxing is so halfassed organized with not enough money to interest him in the long term when he had guaranteed million buck contracts to dominate his NBA inferiors.

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          • StarshipTrooper
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            #145
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            Still waiting.
            You'll grow old and die waiting for that vacuous phuck to back up his bullshlt. Everything he posts is 100% rectally sourced.

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              #146
              Originally posted by StarshipTrooper

              You'll grow old and die waiting for that vacuous phuck to back up his bullshlt. Everything he posts is 100% rectally sourced.
              - - U a budding poetess/proctologist is it now?

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              • Anthony342
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                #147
                Originally posted by StarshipTrooper

                You'll grow old and die waiting for that vacuous phuck to back up his bullshlt. Everything he posts is 100% rectally sourced.
                You said rectal hehe. Did you ever watch Tazz back in the day? His son's actually a wrestler now. They call him Hook because of his legit grappling skills. Uses his dad's Tazzmission choke hold as a finish too, but he calls it the Redrum. His gimmick is more like Sabu though, in that he rarely has to talk.

                Last edited by Anthony342; 05-01-2022, 06:47 AM.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Mteslamiller
                  Tyson was knocked out by Buster Douglas before his prison stint. He had already slipped considerably before his career had been interrupted.
                  A lot of people seem to forget/overlook that. Orison probably just delayed Tyson's continued decline.

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                  • them_apples
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                    #149
                    To sum it up, ******* on Tysons part

                    overall ability and style.

                    obviously a multitude of other reasons, but yeah start at the top = ******* lol

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