Why was Ali's return from exile that much more successful than Tysons?

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  • JAB5239
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    #101
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - Still waiting for Godot or any history members to step up for an ABC123 Jabsky tutorial.
    Keep trolling you drunken old fool.

    Hey, Scully invited you to spar, right? Why don't you come spar with me? You obviously can't debate me with any success.

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    • JAB5239
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      #102
      Originally posted by StarshipTrooper

      An idiot that's obviously coming unhinged.....
      True story. He's gotta be all liquored up again.

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        #103
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        What part of the fight was not able to be made do you not understand? The video shows Ali calling for a contract. A month later he was stripped of his title and in a much bigger battle with uncle Sam. When the fight could be made Wilt never showed up. Now what part of what I just said is not a fact?
        - - Every time Wilt pulls out his pen, Ali shakes his noggin. Contract was on a table in another room with cameras at the ready.

        When Ali makes his comeback, he's no longer champ, so Wilt just uses him like he uses basketballs, bounce him around until he can secure a more lucrative NBA contract than the peanuts Ali was making back then.

        1967 with Ali undefeated, but Ali melts in public much like he did to Foreman in Toronto by refusing to fight.

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          #104
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Every time Wilt pulls out his pen, Ali shakes his noggin. Contract was on a table in another room with cameras at the ready.

          When Ali makes his comeback, he's no longer champ, so Wilt just uses him like he uses basketballs, bounce him around until he can secure a more lucrative NBA contract than the peanuts Ali was making back then.

          1967 with Ali undefeated, but Ali melts in public much like he did to Foreman in Toronto by refusing to fight.
          Where is the video of the other room? And what kind of fool would sign a contract without their attorney looking it over first? But let's put a little more context to this. How could they have fought when Ali was banned....especially given D'Amato said he needed 6 months to train Wilt? You're being embarrassed at every turn ya drunk.

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            #105
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            Where is the video of the other room? And what kind of fool would sign a contract without their attorney looking it over first? But let's put a little more context to this. How could they have fought when Ali was banned....especially given D'Amato said he needed 6 months to train Wilt? You're being embarrassed at every turn ya drunk.

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            - - Wilt had already been in training, first starting in 1965, CONTRACTS PREAPPROVED READY FOR COSELL, A LAWYER HIMSELF WHO ARRANGED SIGNING SO AS TO HOST!

            Man, I had spider monkeys smarter than U.

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              #106
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Wilt had already been in training, first starting in 1965, CONTRACTS PREAPPROVED READY FOR COSELL, A LAWYER HIMSELF WHO ARRANGED SIGNING SO AS TO HOST!

              Man, I had spider monkeys smarter than U.
              No reasonable person is signing anything like that without there own attorney. There is an old saying in law that says "a man who represents himself has a fool for a client".

              So Chamberlain started boxing in 1965. You realize that was an MVP year for him and he was traded to the 76ers, right? Im just curious when he would have had time to do any training? 1966 was another busy year for him and in 1967 he won his first NBA championship. When and where was he training? According to what I've read he was approached by Cus in '65 and again in '67. No mention of any training. But if I'm wrong I'm sure you can supply a link, right?
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                #107
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                No reasonable person is signing anything like that without there own attorney. There is an old saying in law that says "a man who represents himself a fool for a client".

                So Chamberlain started boxing in 1965. You realize that was an MVP year for him and he was traded to the 76ers, right? Im just curious when he would have had time to do any training? 1966 was another busy year for him and in 1967 he won his first NBA championship. When and where was he training? According to what I've read he was approached by Cus in '65 and again in '67. No mention of any training. But if I'm wrong I'm sure you can supply a link, right?
                - - U could dumb down a spider monkey.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - U could dumb down a spider monkey.
                  Who was training Chamberlain in 1965 when you claim he "started" boxing?

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    That's not the way Wilt made it sound (at least to me) in his interview. He said his father was a big boxing fan and that was his reaction when he asked about fighting Ali.
                    I am not sure what sounds different between us - so I heard Wilt say - he told his father he was thinking of training to fight Ali, his father, then replied 'use the tine to practice your free throws' thus messaging his son that he thought Wilt was getting out of your league (pun intended).

                    Wilt got the message. That the father was a biig fight fan only adds to his flippant and dismissive manner in answering Wilt.

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                    • StarshipTrooper
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      Who was training Chamberlain in 1965 when you claim he "started" boxing?
                      Like everything Queenie posts, it's rectally sourced.....

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