Best MW Champion since Marvin Hagler?

[4truth]

Golovkin, easily.

[ShoulderRoll]

I don't think Jacobs was running scared in that fight. He did very well, although I had him losing. Golovkin's KO ratio began to drop when he faced fighters of a higher level. He's only had 3 KOs in his last 7 fights.

Golovkin's KO ratio did start to go down once he faced better competition. And it was no coincidence.

[QueensburyRules]

That's how I feel about Lara and Trout yet you all want to give them the W against Canelo... Keep it consistent

- - Canelo exposed just how sissy styled Lady Lara and Trout "gonna use my man strength on kid Canelo" were.

Esp Lady Lara who ran like a scalded cat afire vs Williams and Canelo. Trout at least tried to man up to him.

[IronDanHamza]

Golovkin lost to Daniel Jacobs according to British and Mexican commentators. Also he didn't set a record for middleweight title defenses as the WBA "regular" belt is a secondary title.

James Toney lost to Dave Tiberi according to everyone on the planet except the 2 of the judges (who were investigated)

Not even sure why he’s even on the shortlist here.

[DeeMoney]

James Toney lost to Dave Tiberi according to everyone on the planet except the 2 of the judges (who were investigated)

Not even sure why he’s even on the shortlist here.

Not playing favs, Toney made the list by having multiple title defenses at 160. Strictly by the numbers.

[Flickergrab98]

Hopkins’ career is so odd. During what most people would consider a fighter’s prime, most of the guys Hopkins beat are ones that no one remembers. Hopkins’ most notable victories like Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya and Kelly Pavlik ALL came when everyone believed he should have been retired. Even with fighters who fought past their primes, like Foreman or Holmes, most of their biggest wins were still from their ”glory days” with them only adding a few notable victories later on.

My memory might be failing me, but I can’t think of any other boxers whose careers were like this. Like, how unusual is it that if we’re judging solely by resume, we basically have to say, “Oh yeah, age 36 to 45 was peak Hopkins!”

[Shadoww702]

- - Canelo exposed just how sissy styled Lady Lara and Trout "gonna use my man strength on kid Canelo" were.

Esp Lady Lara who ran like a scalded cat afire vs Williams and Canelo. Trout at least tried to man up to him.

Yeah that was DISGUSTIN!! One of my avatar pics was Lara trying to superman over canelo. Was soo scurred tried jumping over him then climbing over him to avoid getting trapped. Also all that talk before the fight how he was going to decapitate Canelo and such. All bark!

Trout knew the score and still just kept trying to run the ball instead of do or die. He was contentto lose by decision.

[The Old LefHook]

It is not Golovkin or Canelo. They would be hammered out by larger middleweights like McClellan that they could not even reach with their T-rex AI.

[markusmod]

Golovkin's KO ratio did start to go down once he faced better competition. And it was no coincidence.

This we agree on!

[QueensburyRules]

I don't think Jacobs was running scared in that fight. He did very well, although I had him losing. Golovkin's KO ratio began to drop when he faced fighters of a higher level. He's only had 3 KOs in his last 7 fights.

- - Danny looked also bad against bigger/strongerChavez Jr in the early goings of that fight.

He fought a negative fight vs GGG in hopes that denying a great slugger his KO is enough to win a fight.

GGG age 34 for that fight, now 40, had huge ama career like Loma, Amateur Record: Widely reported as 345-5, but records show he had at least 8 losses.

That's a slew of ring wear what with the sheer number of rounds in training and competition.

Also you might be a victim of the "slugger vs boxer paradox" where nobody questions the merit of a boxing ace KOing a good fighter, but they almost always question the merit of a slugger going to a Win decision over a good fighter...