Best MW Champion since Marvin Hagler?

[ShoulderRoll]

Really? How could they argue that?

Compare Golovkin's era to that of James Toney for example.

There weren't many Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn caliber opponents. Or even close to it.

[The Old LefHook]

If the Question had been Who is the most boring MW champ since Hagler, Ho'kins would win hands down.

[markusmod]

- - Danny looked also bad against bigger/strongerChavez Jr in the early goings of that fight.

He fought a negative fight vs GGG in hopes that denying a great slugger his KO is enough to win a fight.

GGG age 34 for that fight, now 40, had huge ama career like Loma, Amateur Record: Widely reported as 345-5, but records show he had at least 8 losses.

That's a slew of ring wear what with the sheer number of rounds in training and competition.

Also you might be a victim of the "slugger vs boxer paradox" where nobody questions the merit of a boxing ace KOing a good fighter, but they almost always question the merit of a slugger going to a Win decision over a good fighter...

Chavez Jr. blew the weight limit if you remember and was likely 200 pounds that night. They had to raise the weight limit like 3 times.

[crold1]

This is probably true, as his rankings in that Ring Magazine top 100 showed.

Though one could argue his era was not as strong as an earlier era.

No, it's BHop. 13 wins against 11 guys rated in Ring's top ten between the Mercado draw and Taylor loss. 14 if you count Pavlik at light heavyweight.

GGG has ten to date, plus the win over Brook rising and the draw with Alvarez.

[tokon]

Compare Golovkin's era to that of James Toney for example.

There weren't many Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn caliber opponents. Or even close to it.

A huge factor imo would be weigh-in times. With today's 24-36hr weighs, some of those fighters would have at 154 whilst, with same day weighs, most of the more modern would have been at 168.

[QueensburyRules]

Chavez Jr. blew the weight limit if you remember and was likely 200 pounds that night. They had to raise the weight limit like 3 times.

- - Jr started his career at 140 and was greatly handicapped by misanthropic expectations that he was supposed to stay in lower divisions like daddy when in fact he was a large growing boy.

That was supposed to be a big name gimmee for Danny, and it was, but in the beginning Jr stronger having his way and it showed in Danny reluctance to engage. That's the difference between a smart fighter and a great one.

[IronDanHamza]

Compare Golovkin's era to that of James Toney for example.

There weren't many Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn caliber opponents. Or even close to it.

Golovkin didn’t lose and draw to unranked fighters at MW like Toney.

As overrated as Golovkin is his MW reign is leagues above Toney’s.

[BattlingNelson]

Compare Golovkin's era to that of James Toney for example.

There weren't many Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn caliber opponents. Or even close to it.

Nunn was very good yes, but resume at MW is short. McCallum was an ATG but his best work was arguably at 154. Toney's career at MW was quite short and does not carry the long dominance of Golovkin who was the best MW long before he even got a belt.

[markusmod]

- - Jr started his career at 140 and was greatly handicapped by misanthropic expectations that he was supposed to stay in lower divisions like daddy when in fact he was a large growing boy.

That was supposed to be a big name gimmee for Danny, and it was, but in the beginning Jr stronger having his way and it showed in Danny reluctance to engage. That's the difference between a smart fighter and a great one.

C'mon. Canelo started at 140. Chavez Jr. and Canelo started boxing as young kids, were not done growing and now they are men.

[Incapable]

I have to side with BHop first and then Golovkin.

Yes definitely, in that order.