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  • Tatabanya
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    #21
    Originally posted by markusmod

    Hard to say. Some guys at heavyweight bounce back well from back to back batterings, like Klitschko and Maskaev and others.
    I see what you mean, especially in regard to Maskaev. I would not put Klitschko in the same bracket, though.

    Klitschko never suffered back to back batterings, in reality. If you refer to his knockout losses vs Sanders and Brewster, he had two won fights between them. Then again, the Sanders loss was a quick two-round blowout, whereas Wlad lost against Brewster for sudden exhaustion in a fight he was winning.

    But Wilder has been beaten like a drum for at least fifteen rounds in his last two fights. Furthermore, his physical structure is rather weak compared to the other names you mentioned. He does hit hard, but seems to absorb blows much worse than the average heavyweight.
    Last edited by Tatabanya; 10-12-2021, 07:21 AM.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #22
      Originally posted by Tatabanya

      I see what you mean, especially in regard to Maskaev. I would not put Klitschko in the same bracket, though.

      Klitschko never suffered back to back batterings, in reality. If you refer to his knockout losses vs Sanders and Brewster, he had two won fights between them. Then again, the Sanders loss was a quick two-round blowout, whereas Wlad lost against Brewster for sudden exhaustion in a fight he was winning.

      But Wilder has been beaten like a drum for at least fifteen rounds in his last two fights. Furthermore, his physical structure is rather weak compared to the other names you mentioned. He does hit hard, but seems to absorb blows much worse than the average heavyweight.
      - -Clearest example of a fighter being drugged by some kind of designer date **** drug the illicit drug industry specializes in.

      Also Brewster a low ranking DKIng fighter who got seriously beat up in every title defense save the Golota one.

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      • JAB5239
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        #23
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - -Clearest example of a fighter being drugged by some kind of designer date **** drug the illicit drug industry specializes in.

        Also Brewster a low ranking DKIng fighter who got seriously beat up in every title defense save the Golota one.
        There is ZERO proof Wlad was drugged. He gassed out and got stopped when he couldn't put Brewsyer away. These are the FACTS!!

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          #24
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          There is ZERO proof Wlad was drugged. He gassed out and got stopped when he couldn't put Brewsyer away. These are the FACTS!!
          - -Gassed out of an easy walk in the park jab fest is it? After two rights resulted in 2 KDs that had Roy hollering from ringside to stop the fight.

          That's 100% proof of U 0.0001 IQ. Guy I was with was a cornerman for SSMosely saw it as a drugging, and post fight physical show dramatic atypical bloodtest results.





























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            #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            You're an idiot. Wilder forces the trilogy with Fury which is why neither has been able to fight Joshua. That and because Joshua lost to Ruiz setting back any unification fight so he could force an immediate rematch. There will be no Fury fight again, because AJ went and lost again and wants an immediate rematch. Doesn't matter. He wouldn't beat Wilder or Fury. He doesn't have the same heart as either of those guys.

            As far your obsession with Holmes goes....didn't Ali drop the WBA title, retire, than unretire, didn't the Coetzee fight fall apart after being made thru no fault of Holmes? Did any WBA champ have more than 2 title defenses between the time Spinks beat Ali and Mike Tyso s reign? Never mind, I'll answer that for you. From Leon Spinks up until Tyson there were a total of 10 WBA heavyweight champions. Between these 10 champions they combined for a grand total of THREE successful title defenses. And you think it was Holmes job to try and get fights with these guys? Seriously......You're an idiot.
            - -The duology!

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            • Willie Pep 229
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              #26
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - -Gassed out of an easy walk in the park jab fest is it? After two rights resulted in 2 KDs that had Roy hollering from ringside to stop the fight.

              That's 100% proof of U 0.0001 IQ. Guy I was with was a cornerman for SSMosely saw it as a drugging, and post fight physical show dramatic atypical bloodtest results.

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              Just to explore the possibility . . .

              1. What was the betting line going in; was there good money to be made with the loss?

              1a. Was there a sudden influx of betting money right before the fight. ***

              2. Did Wald change his people after the fight?

              3. Did Wald show, in both previous and subsequent fights a tendency in fade that quickly that badly?

              4. What type of reputation (ethically speaking) did the opposite corner's seconds hold?

              5. Where did the fight take place?

              6. Did Wald peopl's choose to force the issue before a judge?

              *** In '26 Dempsey went from a 4 to 1 favorite four days before to a 7 to 5 underdog at ring side all based on his sickly looking appearance at the afternoon weight-in. With much of the new money appearing from ***ish gangsters out of Phily, led by Abe Atell, which looked to be Rothstein's money he was throwing around. Late money is always a tell tale sign.
              Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 10-12-2021, 04:45 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - -The stirrings of hereto untapped intelligence?

                Handicapped by some corrupt burocratic?

                Priceless beyond the odds of probability!


                Sigh... you are an idiot.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Both Fury and Wilder would beat AJ. To much heart and grit. Usyk on the other hand....I'd give him a good shot to beat Wilder, but Fury, as much as I hate to say it, he's the best right now.
                  But but... He does not weigh half a ton!!! Seriously I would love to see Fury versus Usyk. I think that Chisora taught Usyk to make some adjustments... I kind of feel like I read his mind, as he did just what I thought he ought to do... But the reason I mention this is because Usyk can avoid Wilder's right hand. Joe Frazier is the One armed fighter to reach the apex of the division... I don't think Wilder can catch Usyk.

                  I cant even imagine how Usyk versus Fury would look... really have to think on that one.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by markusmod

                    Wilder vs. Usyk would be an odd fight. Wilder is so long and tall. Curious how Usyk deals with someone like that.
                    Avoid the right side of Wilder... create an angle so when Wilder is in range to throw the right Usyk rocks to his back foot and circles away. Usyk does not use his shoulders much... so he probably wants to to try to be on his back foot when the right comes.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - -Woulda, coulda, shoulda but for being tooooo light in their low hanging fruit loafers like U, the whole reason they turned down a Kings Ransom to fight AJ.

                      Same woulda, coulda, shoulda reason tubby Lar wouldn't fight the WBA guys.

                      Do U even watch boxing?
                      Sigh... you are an idiot.

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