Tonight's Fight: What 'we' think.

[QueensburyRules]

- -I put 5.5mil on Fury by KO...shhhhh...noone should know...

It's in the books now, the two AJ duckees thrilling low brows with an epic club fighting level brawl with Deyonce staggering around punch drunk for most of the fight.

Make a good animated cartoon for the kiddies with kiddy dialogue...make it happen!

[Tatabanya]

A very intelligent response. Its a good bet, and the odds are tightening, so if you get Wilder at something ****** like -300 thats a good value. Fury came in heavy imo. I stopped betting on boxing because I got sick of bad decisions ruining my bets... Its one thing to see your guy win and ****** judges get it wrong, its another to also lose money on it. Its just too frustrating for me.

I had Usyk and wanted badly to bet but I just knew the judges would corrupt the decision... I am glad they did not, but it will be a long time before I bet on a sport where I am not only depending on my rationality, instincts, etc... but also that some corrupt burocratic can handicap me.

I've not been able to quit betting since I picked Joe Joyce's exact round against Dubois to win a thousand.

But right now my negative streak has reached four months!

PS what a heart, that Deontay!

[JAB5239]

- -I put 5.5mil on Fury by KO...shhhhh...noone should know...

It's in the books now, the two AJ duckees thrilling low brows with an epic club fighting level brawl with Deyonce staggering around punch drunk for most of the fight.

Make a good animated cartoon for the kiddies with kiddy dialogue...make it happen!

Both Fury and Wilder would beat AJ. To much heart and grit. Usyk on the other hand....I'd give him a good shot to beat Wilder, but Fury, as much as I hate to say it, he's the best right now.

[markusmod]

I've not been able to quit betting since I picked Joe Joyce's exact round against Dubois to win a thousand.

But right now my negative streak has reached four months!

PS what a heart, that Deontay!

Wilder vs. Usyk would be an odd fight. Wilder is so long and tall. Curious how Usyk deals with someone like that.

[Tatabanya]

Wilder vs. Usyk would be an odd fight. Wilder is so long and tall. Curious how Usyk deals with someone like that.

It would be if Wilder hasn't become damaged goods, which after the last two brutal knockouts he suffered I believe he is. Unfortunately.

[QueensburyRules]

Both Fury and Wilder would beat AJ. To much heart and grit. Usyk on the other hand....I'd give him a good shot to beat Wilder, but Fury, as much as I hate to say it, he's the best right now.

- -Woulda, coulda, shoulda but for being tooooo light in their low hanging fruit loafers like U, the whole reason they turned down a Kings Ransom to fight AJ.

Same woulda, coulda, shoulda reason tubby Lar wouldn't fight the WBA guys.

Do U even watch boxing?

[JAB5239]

- -Woulda, coulda, shoulda but for being tooooo light in their low hanging fruit loafers like U, the whole reason they turned down a Kings Ransom to fight AJ.

Same woulda, coulda, shoulda reason tubby Lar wouldn't fight the WBA guys.

Do U even watch boxing?

You're an idiot. Wilder forces the trilogy with Fury which is why neither has been able to fight Joshua. That and because Joshua lost to Ruiz setting back any unification fight so he could force an immediate rematch. There will be no Fury fight again, because AJ went and lost again and wants an immediate rematch. Doesn't matter. He wouldn't beat Wilder or Fury. He doesn't have the same heart as either of those guys.

As far your obsession with Holmes goes....didn't Ali drop the WBA title, retire, than unretire, didn't the Coetzee fight fall apart after being made thru no fault of Holmes? Did any WBA champ have more than 2 title defenses between the time Spinks beat Ali and Mike Tyso s reign? Never mind, I'll answer that for you. From Leon Spinks up until Tyson there were a total of 10 WBA heavyweight champions. Between these 10 champions they combined for a grand total of THREE successful title defenses. And you think it was Holmes job to try and get fights with these guys? Seriously......You're an idiot.

[Willie Pep 229]

In regards to your signature post (not the post above) a poster some time ago (not Queen) offered the argument that Liston fell down the second time becuse he saw Ali coming at him and didn't want to be attacked while trying to regain his feet.

I personally don't buy into this argument because I believe Liston was just quitting a fight he no longer wanted after the delay of the Boston fight.

Not a fix, just a f uck you to a corrupt system by Liston. (My opinion).

But if you watch the replay just as Liston starts to get up Ali does start to move right towards him.

I am not arguing that Ali should have been disqualified or that he intended to kick Liston, but I could see an aggressive referee like say Miles Lane considering doing just that.

IMO the fight should have continued (Nat Fleischer should have minded his own buisness) and Ali should have ben deducted a point thus neutralizing his KD point.

[JAB5239]

In regards to your signature post (not the post above) a poster some time ago (not Queen) offered the argument that Liston fell down the second time becuse he saw Ali coming at him and didn't want to be attacked while trying to regain his feet.

I personally don't buy into this argument because I believe Liston was just quitting a fight he no longer wanted after the delay of the Boston fight.

Not a fix, just a f uck you to a corrupt system by Liston. (My opinion).

But if you watch the replay just as Liston starts to get up Ali does start to move right towards him.

I am not arguing that Ali should have been disqualified or that he intended to kick Liston, but I could see an aggressive referee like say Miles Lane considering doing just that.

IMO the fight should have continued (Nat Fleischer should have minded his own buisness) and Ali should have ben deducted a point thus neutralizing his KD point.

I think this is a perfectly fair assessment. I don't know if Liston would have gotten up or not. My argument is he was in a much worse spot than Douglas when Tyson knocked him down. Fleischer should have certainly minded his business either was and Walcott without a doubt bungled everything that night.

[markusmod]

It would be if Wilder hasn't become damaged goods, which after the last two brutal knockouts he suffered I believe he is. Unfortunately.

Hard to say. Some guys at heavyweight bounce back well from back to back batterings, like Klitschko and Maskaev and others.