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    #41
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    Here is a link to an article by respected boxing writer and historian George Kimball on this very topic.

    https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/articles-of...ust-taste-sour
    He does a good job debunking Wald's arguments via the doctors - it is of course a bias piece - I think he does himself a disservice using vaugarities and cheeky remarks. Is this guy a professional writer or a blogger?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      He does a good job debunking Wald's arguments via the doctors - it is of course a bias piece - I think he does himself a disservice using vaugarities and cheeky remarks. Is this guy a professional writer or a blogger?
      - -I take it he's part of that echo chamber of the boxing establishment of the BWAA who voted Floydy as Fighter of the Decade in spite of his last 5 of the 10 fights he was in being farcical.

      And using the sweet nothings of Doc Goodman who would like to see boxing banned and now in charge of the BALCO Vic set up of VADA ain't the kind of doc I'd be wanting to diagnose or perform surgery on me.

      However, notably she said this: "We don't know what was in the IV” referring to the post fight hospital protocol.

      Manny, Wlad, and Vitali say Wlad was drugged, and me and my boxing buddy independently of each other and the fight team saw it as a drugging. Manny trumps Kimball and the Nevada commish and the ****** hospital that can't properly account for a simple IV.

      He quotes Big George out of context. George never spoke to **** Sadler again.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

        He does a good job debunking Wald's arguments via the doctors - it is of course a bias piece - I think he does himself a disservice using vaugarities and cheeky remarks. Is this guy a professional writer or a blogger?
        Kimball wrote for the Boston herald for many years, wrote the book "The four kings" about Leonard, Duran, Hagler and Hearns and is an inductee in the International boxing hall of fame.

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          #44
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - -I take it he's part of that echo chamber of the boxing establishment of the BWAA who voted Floydy as Fighter of the Decade in spite of his last 5 of the 10 fights he was in being farcical.

          And using the sweet nothings of Doc Goodman who would like to see boxing banned and now in charge of the BALCO Vic set up of VADA ain't the kind of doc I'd be wanting to diagnose or perform surgery on me.

          However, notably she said this: "We don't know what was in the IV” referring to the post fight hospital protocol.

          Manny, Wlad, and Vitali say Wlad was drugged, and me and my boxing buddy independently of each other and the fight team saw it as a drugging. Manny trumps Kimball and the Nevada commish and the ****** hospital that can't properly account for a simple IV.

          He quotes Big George out of context. George never spoke to **** Sadler again.
          So what you and your armchair friend saw over the television trumps what the Nevada state athletic commission and the doctors that were there say? That BRILLIANT!!!

          You're an idiot.

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            #45
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            So what you and your armchair friend saw over the television trumps what the Nevada state athletic commission and the doctors that were there say? That BRILLIANT!!!

            You're an idiot.
            - -Doc Goodman says she don't know. Get your bedraggled minder to read and explain that to U.

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              #46
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - -I take it he's part of that echo chamber of the boxing establishment of the BWAA who voted Floydy as Fighter of the Decade in spite of his last 5 of the 10 fights he was in being farcical.

              And using the sweet nothings of Doc Goodman who would like to see boxing banned and now in charge of the BALCO Vic set up of VADA ain't the kind of doc I'd be wanting to diagnose or perform surgery on me.

              However, notably she said this: "We don't know what was in the IV” referring to the post fight hospital protocol.

              Manny, Wlad, and Vitali say Wlad was drugged, and me and my boxing buddy independently of each other and the fight team saw it as a drugging. Manny trumps Kimball and the Nevada commish and the ****** hospital that can't properly account for a simple IV.

              He quotes Big George out of context. George never spoke to **** Sadler again.
              Just curious....is Wlad truly thought he was drugged than why did he leave the hospital that night against doctors orders? And why did he not follow up in a timely manner with the blood tests? Things that make you go hmm......

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                #47
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                Just curious....is Wlad truly thought he was drugged than why did he leave the hospital that night against doctors orders? And why did he not follow up in a timely manner with the blood tests? Things that make you go hmm......
                - -Two PhDs and Manny prob disappointed in the level of professionalism shown. Why do you assume they didn't follow up on a timely manner based only on Kimball? Certainly the Vegas commish is notorious for a lack of professionalism as are most boxing commishes.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - -Two PhDs and Manny prob disappointed in the level of professionalism shown. Why do you assume they didn't follow up on a timely manner based only on Kimball? Certainly the Vegas commish is notorious for a lack of professionalism as are most boxing commishes.
                  Considering he hired an independent lab and the blood work came back clean and than had to be given instructions on how to obtain his blood work from the hospital, which if nothing was found is disposed of in 7 to 10 days, than I would say he didn't follow up in a timely manner. Common sense really. As far as him leaving the hospital.....neither PhD nor Manny are medical professionals. If they truly thought he was poisoned they wouldn't have been going anywhere or at the very least would have immediately followed up. You provide more excuses, but you show no proof. The same as Wlad, which is why the federal investigation went no where.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    Considering he hired an independent lab and the blood work came back clean and than had to be given instructions on how to obtain his blood work from the hospital, which if nothing was found is disposed of in 7 to 10 days, than I would say he didn't follow up in a timely manner. Common sense really. As far as him leaving the hospital.....neither PhD nor Manny are medical professionals. If they truly thought he was poisoned they wouldn't have been going anywhere or at the very least would have immediately followed up. You provide more excuses, but you show no proof. The same as Wlad, which is why the federal investigation went no where.
                    - -They have a similar background of physiology as medical docs as I also do. Premeds dominated many of my science courses and tended to do better because they formed study groups. They're also notorious for helping to create what amounts to the largest legal drug culture in the world that includes the opioid crisis while making over the counter laudanum illegal. Let's not even mention the new INDUSTRY they've created out of healthcare that has made healthcare unaffordable to most people.

                    They couldn't even put masks in the hands of the people at the start of their self created PANIC they labeled a pandemic. I could go on with personal experiences, but lets just end with I ain't getting the Corona vac either.

                    I hereby bequeath my free vac to U...you're welcome...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - -They have a similar background of physiology as medical docs as I also do. Premeds dominated many of my science courses and tended to do better because they formed study groups. They're also notorious for helping to create what amounts to the largest legal drug culture in the world that includes the opioid crisis while making over the counter laudanum illegal. Let's not even mention the new INDUSTRY they've created out of healthcare that has made healthcare unaffordable to most people.

                      They couldn't even put masks in the hands of the people at the start of their self created PANIC they labeled a pandemic. I could go on with personal experiences, but lets just end with I ain't getting the Corona vac either.

                      I hereby bequeath my free vac to U...you're welcome...
                      Hitting the bottle a little early, don't ya think? None of this has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about.

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