Mike Tyson vs Rocky Marciano

[Jim Jeffries]

I would like to know your thoughts on who would win in a dream match between Mike Tyson and Rocky Marciano, but not exactly focusing on their primes but rather the Tyson that destroyed Michael Spinks 90 seconds into the first round vs the Rocky Marciano who drilled Joe Walcott in the first round. Who would win and why?

1. Spinks was a washed up light heavyweight.
2. Spinks was quoted as saying "to tell you the truth, I'm not crazy about getting in the ring with that man."
3. Spinks was 212 lbs for the fight, heavier than he'd ever fought.
4. Spinks' only fights at heavyweight were an aging Holmes, Steven Tangstaad (??????) and Gerry Cooney.
5. Spinks doesn't try to box Tyson, doesn't try to evade him, doesn't really jab him, no lateral movement, and doesn't throw any bombs at him.
6. Spinks was just in there to collect his huge paycheck and retire.

[them_apples]

I always feel Immature rooting for Tyson constantly since he's treated like a childhood hero, but he seems to get the better half of most match ups.

1. Spinks was a washed up light heavyweight.
2. Spinks was quoted as saying "to tell you the truth, I'm not crazy about getting in the ring with that man."
3. Spinks was 212 lbs for the fight, heavier than he'd ever fought.
4. Spinks' only fights at heavyweight were an aging Holmes, Steven Tangstaad (??????) and Gerry Cooney.
5. Spinks doesn't try to box Tyson, doesn't try to evade him, doesn't really jab him, no lateral movement, and doesn't throw any bombs at him.
6. Spinks was just in there to collect his huge paycheck and retire.

you forgot number 7: you don't give Mike Tyson any credit, even when it's needed.

[Jim Jeffries]

while sparring with a 40 year old marciano cassius ckay (ALI) remarked that he was very difficult to hit.

It's too bad Rocky had that scum sucking manager and had to retire early like he did rather than pay that thief another cent.

[Jim Jeffries]

I always feel Immature rooting for Tyson constantly since he's treated like a childhood hero, but he seems to get the better half of most match ups.


you forgot number 7: you don't give Mike Tyson any credit, even when it's needed.

Of course I do, but when so many people on here are acting like he's the greatest fighter that ever lived......I was a big fan of Tyson's back in the late 80's, he was a very exciting fighter to watch and had that aura of invinciblity about him. As it turned out he was hyped up just a bit too much and his chin and stamina turned out to be problems. As it is now, I'm sooooooo tired of hearing excuses for his ko losses to Douglas and Holyfield, when he was 30 or under, and how he could've beat ANYBODY.

[Hawkins]

It's too bad Rocky had that scum sucking manager and had to retire early like he did rather than pay that thief another cent.

Yea, thats what sucks. An all too common practice, even today. Still it would have been nice to see him come out and crush Ingemar Johansson.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yea, thats what sucks. An all too common practice, even today. Still it would have been nice to see him come out and crush Ingemar Johansson.

He still should have come back and fought Patterson though. Floyd was a better boxer, but I think the Rock could have gotten to that chin eventually.

[Hawkins]

He still should have come back and fought Patterson though. Floyd was a better boxer, but I think the Rock could have gotten to that chin eventually.

Yeah, Rocky would have gotten to Floyd IMO as well. Suzie Q would have been like a hot knife thru butter on Floyd's chin,

[them_apples]

Of course I do, but when so many people on here are acting like he's the greatest fighter that ever lived......I was a big fan of Tyson's back in the late 80's, he was a very exciting fighter to watch and had that aura of invinciblity about him. As it turned out he was hyped up just a bit too much and his chin and stamina turned out to be problems. As it is now, I'm sooooooo tired of hearing excuses for his ko losses to Douglas and Holyfield, when he was 30 or under, and how he could've beat ANYBODY.

How can you honestly say he had poor stamina and a chin? Lewis has one of the hardest right hands in History and Tyson lasted 8 rounds of punishment, even past his prime. Even Lewis said he was shocked at the kind of punches Tyson took..and he even hurt his hand.

Also, I never saw Tyson tire during his prime. He always went 12 rounds without dropping the pressure.

Yes everyone does make excuses for the Douglas fight, a loss is a loss..if Tyson decides to party and not train then that was his fault for being a mentally weak fighter, thus proving him to not be the greatest ever. With Rooney in his corner though, I will say other wise, because he was unmatched.

I don't like to nuthug, but Tyson was a VERY good boxer during his reign, but he clearly had mental problems to stay champion for so long.

[Mike Tyson77]

That man looked like he was 2 seconds away from pissing in his trunks. He didn't even ATTEMPT to fight back. He looked like a deer caught in headlights.

For good reason to.

[Jim Jeffries]

How can you honestly say he had poor stamina and a chin? Lewis has one of the hardest right hands in History and Tyson lasted 8 rounds of punishment, even past his prime. Even Lewis said he was shocked at the kind of punches Tyson took..and he even hurt his hand.

Also, I never saw Tyson tire during his prime. He always went 12 rounds without dropping the pressure.

Yes everyone does make excuses for the Douglas fight, a loss is a loss..if Tyson decides to party and not train then that was his fault for being a mentally weak fighter, thus proving him to not be the greatest ever. With Rooney in his corner though, I will say other wise, because he was unmatched.

I don't like to nuthug, but Tyson was a VERY good boxer during his reign, but he clearly had mental problems to stay champion for so long.

The think is, Douglas was a BUM, a 42-1 underdog, and Tyson was in his PRIME. And people that say he was past it at 30 when Holyfield stopped him, damn, is Mayweather PAST it too?