Mike Tyson vs Rocky Marciano

[Hawkins]

Hawkins, you responded like a man. Do you know how many bitches get all tore up over simple debates? LOL

Trust me. I know all too well. It's the main reason I stayed away from forums for a few years. Too many young kids (and some older ones as well) think its cool to curse you out on the 'net and flame people because their opinion's differ. Can't mix immaturity with adult level conversation.

[The Iron Man]

Ok Hawkins i agree with your assesment Mostly. Although i cant see Marciano winning, he has a good chin yes, but has any1 hit him as hard and as oftern as tyson would?! no. Marciano had no Jab at all so he wouldnt disturb tysons rythm. It would be over within 5. I cant see this going to distance its totally wrong for marciano, tyson would have been hit much harder and he can take a fair deal of Punishment. As for seldon not being scared please, he was ****ting himself. You may be getting confused with Razor Ruddock.

[Hawkins]

One a sidenote, as far as brute force goes I think Rocky Marciano's Suzy Q right was harder than any punch Tyson threw. However I think Tyson's power isn't far behind.

But having said that, Tyson's punching power isn't what made him a beast. It was hand speed and fast combinations with power that did the damage. Yes Tyson hit hard, but it's the speed that did the trick.

[The Iron Man]

I agree that his Power and Accuracy was something that most hard hitters didnt have. But i dont agree that Marciano Hit harder

[hhascup]

One a sidenote, as far as brute force goes I think Rocky Marciano's Suzy Q right was harder than any punch Tyson threw. However I think Tyson's power isn't far behind.

But having said that, Tyson's punching power isn't what made him a beast. It was hand speed and fast combinations with power that did the damage. Yes Tyson hit hard, but it's the speed that did the trick.

I agree with the last part, BUT IMO Tyson hit harder then Rocky. The picture you have of Rocky hitting Walcott, that wasn't the KO punch. That punch that you have took place several rounds before thev ending.

Tyson was an animal, and he hit hard and fast. He had 22 first rounds KO's, 23 if you count McNeeley compared to 11 for Rocky. Tyson stopped much Bigger boxers then Rocky ever did.

[Hawkins]

The picture you have of Rocky hitting Walcott, that wasn't the KO punch. That punch that you have took place several rounds before thev ending.

I know, I have both. I liked this one better because it was a much closer picture.

[Jim Jeffries]

If Marciano fought today or even in Tyson's time, he wouldn't have even been a full fledged cruiserweight, so it's hardly a fair comparison. Plus a few of his fights would have been stopped today because of cuts, so further edge to Tyson there. But any talk of Tyson KOing him in the first round in any time at any weight at any age is rediculous.

[hhascup]

If Marciano fought today or even in Tyson's time, he wouldn't have even been a full fledged cruiserweight, so it's hardly a fair comparison. Plus a few of his fights would have been stopped today because of cuts, so further edge to Tyson there. But any talk of Tyson KOing him in the first round in any time at any weight at any age is rediculous.

If Tyson caught Rocky early and Rocky tried to fight back instead of trying to last the round, I could see Tyson winning by a 1st round KO.

I see both coming out quickly, BUT Tyson was so much faster and like you stated Rocky would be only a Cruiserweight if he fought today. Tyson would outweigh Rocky by 30 pounds. It would be the speed of Tyson's punches, his power and weight advantage, plus Rocky would never back up and that would be his down fall.

[The Iron Man]

totally agree with you Henry. A first round KO isnt a massive exagertation nor is it bias. Its totally realistic

[them_apples]

marciano in all likelyhood hit HARDER than tyson but less frequently.

tyson does slow down after the first 3 rounds often quite consideribly assuming marciano survives he would be getting stronger and would start to dominate.

almost everyone tyson faced feared him with the possible exceptions of
buster douglas
evander holfield

i'll give you holmes he didn't fear tyson but he was nearing 40! he still made a good go of it in the first few rounds.

the prime tyson was in a weak era no stronger than marciano's

you have no proof of anything you just said, just a solid Bias.

Marciano hitting harder than Mike is very, very unlikely, even watching his fights against guys his size his punches don't impact any where near the same kind of power. I have no idea where you came to the assumption that Marciano hit harder than Mike.

Mike's era wasn't the best, but Marciano's was far worse. I have a strong feeling Lewis Dodged Tyson during their younger years after realizing what he was like in the sparring ring a few years before. Lewis stated himself in an interview Tyson was nothing compared to his former Glory, but it was still a bench mark for him.

Marciano's era was jam packed full of bum's more so than Tyson, Tyson fought bigger names than Marciano.

Yes Seldon ******, I should not have used him as an example.

But Spinks, Bruno, Tucker, Ruddock and Holmes are all notable tough fighter's

you say Holmes was pushing 40, well Ali was pushing 40 when he fought Foreman, and he beat him.

@ Hawkins, I must agree you have been a good sport with the Tyson fans.