With the legal stuff he has prolly been advised not 2 speak publicly. The fight wont happen because Pac won't agree to OST testing with no cutoff, he will only agree to a 7 day cutoff. I dont see Pac lifting that.
I think Ortiz is going to surprise a lot of people (again). I put him as a very live underdog against Mayweather and I would pick him to beat (possibly KO) Pacquiao if they fought.
You know Ortiz has surprised me a couple times. He surprised me when he easily beat Nate Campbell and by winning against Berto. Now again he is underestimated and will definitely be a live dog early. Ortiz would stylistically give Pac a very hard fight so i agree with a lot of what you say. If Mayweather can stay out of the early danger I think he gets the UD. Well got off topic. David Haye I hope he beats Klit because the Klits r very boring and unwatchable.
Adrien Broner would give McGregor a savage beating. I don't know if Floyd still bout that life. We bout to find out. Can McGregor go 5? I don't know. I'll find out the next day as people talk about it. Showtime will probably put this comical act on Showtime for free in a few years.
The fight is a last minute replacement and still better than Chavez Jr or Amir Khan.
Vanes beat up Charlo, drew with Lara and is just disliked because he ain't black on this forum.
Lol Vanes sucks. Charlo gave him a schooling. We all know this is a lay up for Golovkin. I expect Gennady to get his first KO in a couple fights with this durable but overmatched junior middleweight. He needs to show he can get a smaller guy out of there, something Jacobs failed to do last weekend.
Well he been duck by maidana Robert Guerrero and Paulie said he doesn't bring much.....but guys like Chavez and soto are guys promotors keep away from there prospects ....I'm telling all ya now throw in Chavez in the loop with other name ww he will stand out
great post. look Chavez showed himself to be a real fighter against Thurman. He has real power and would put some of the names at welter to sleep. Anyone that saw that fight saw Chavez would give these guys hell if he gets an opportunity. Thurman is fighting tough fights even if he isn't getting the opportunity to fight the names. He has taken high risk low reward fights and has come out on top every time
I heavily favor Luis Collazo this in this fight. As I write this, I am watching Thurman-Zaveck and it looks like Thurman swings a lot of wild punches. Kind of like a Mayorga with a bit more skill and athletic ability. Thurman's record is comparable to Adrien Broner and Andre Berto in that they came up KOing tomato cans.
I say Collazo lands a lot of short, accurate punches in the fight and might be able to KO Thurman.
It's about skill.
Ill bite even if we follow the logic of comparing him to Berto lets not forget Berto was able to outhustle Collazo to a controversial decision. Collazo is skilled and tricky enough to make things very difficult for Thurman if he shows up in tip top shape. I feel Thurman has a higher ring IQ than Berto and has an ability to adjust to whats in front of him. Part of the reason he got wild against Zaveck is because he was selling out at points to get the stoppage. It could mean he wasn't worried about Zavecks return fire as much late in the fight. When he felt power against Chavez & Karass he adjusted and boxed instead of getting wild. He is a much more well rounded fighter than Berto. Still he hasn't fought anyone with the resume and experience of a Collazo. Collazo's achilles heel is he can be outhustled in the judges eyes by a come forward fighter because he often doesn't win rounds authoritatively. I got Thurman winning a close fight with his aggressiveness. Its a very competitive fight that should be made.
Maidana is definitely a flawed fighter but with his big punch he will get some upsets from time to time. He is overhyped. He is a limited fighter that will lose to a complete fighter or atleast an intelligent fighter that can avoid the big punch and outbox him. He can be hurt early in fights also but Maidana to his credit has never been stopped despite that vulnerability.
Maidana won every poll its just Mayweather Promotions has the ability to rig the results on their website. Its no suprise Maidana won handily on ESPN & Ring magazine but lost the only poll Mayweather had control over. Floyd just looks like an outright troll right now.
Put it this way I would rather take a flush shot from Floyd than a flush shot from Maidana. Maidana hits harder no question about it. Floyd hits you flush more with his skills opening up more opportunites. A slick fighter or a fast one can avoid Maidana's much heavier artillery easier than Floyds though. Khan will only be a frontrunner much like Judah was until Floyd gets adjusted to his speed and picks him completely apart in the second half of the fight. He will hit Khan with much greater frequency than Maidana did. Even if he does get the stoppage it doesn't prove he is a harder puncher than Maidana. Khan is not the same fighter he was then when Ariza had his punch resistance up. I'd favor Maidana by KO in a Khan rematch today. With Floyd I can see him scoring a late round stoppage but I wouldn't feel confident enough about that to bet on it.
No, this has nothing to do with Collazo stopping Ortiz. I was expecting it, I didn't think it would come so early though, and in the manner it did. Thurman makes A LOT of the same mistakes Ortiz made in that moment, perhaps even more often.
Thurman would probably beat those guys, maybe Guerrrero could make it close.
Ortiz could have gotten up from the KO shot but decided to quit. Thurman is much tougher mentally than Ortiz. When Collazo catches Thurman making one of those mistakes Thurman will be able to adjust. He isn't a one dimensional fighter that will make mistakes over and over again. He is a well schooled fighter.
so that makes it automatic even though Canelo ran through Lopez much easier then Maidana did? Lopez likes Maidana and hates Canelo. Im not saying its not true. I think MM is p4p top 5 puncher if not higher but Canelo is still naturally alot bigger & stronger
thats true but there is a difference between physical strenth and punching power. i'm sure canelo could bench press much more than maidana but when the 2 punch someone its maidana that has the concussive power. do you think matthew hatton goes the distance with maidana? i think he'd take a canvas nap like his brother ricky did
When is the last time we've seen a one punch KO guy in the welters? A guy that at any moment can get you out of there with one punch!
its rare and the closest thing around welter is actually 7 miles south at 140 with lucas matthysse. no doubt he packs 1 punch KO power as he has stopped several guys for the first time in their careers that were solid pros like ajose, soto, and peterson. thurman is knocking everyone out not named zaveck and if he were able to get some devastating stoppages against some name guys he has the potential to be in the conversation. I can't see Maidana completely rendering Floyd unconcious with a shot which is what he would need to win. He is capable of hurting Floyd though if one of those big shots happens to land. Here is a fun stat
KO Ratio:
Marcos Maidana 81%
Miguel Cotto 73%
Saul Alvarez 68%
Shane Mosley 67%
ODLH 66%
Victor Ortiz 61%
So it seems the arguements Canelo & Shane are bigger punchers than Ortiz have some merit. Still can't argue with the numbers Maidana has the highest KO ratio of any recent Floyd opponents
http://gifsoup.com/view2/1400461/canelo-alvarez-ko-o.gif
Yes, Maidana can crack. No, it's not the type of power that Mayweather has never faced before. Chino isn't some Jackson/Hearns type punching monster.
he certainly isn't but he still packs a bigger punch than floyd's recent opposition
Maidana hits hard with both hands and has a non stop attacking style but he is not that big and looks a bit fat for a boxer at 147. Canelo is a much bigger guy than Maidana and probably hits harder for one punch or lots of punches. He took out Lopez quicker and easier with fewer punches than Maidana did. Maidana did not put Khan away and Canelo would have no trouble KOing Khan. Maidana could KO Mayweather if he hit him just right and followed it up with more good punches. I doubt any welterweight is going to KO Mayweather with one punch because Floyd has a very good chin.
Lets not forget that version of khan was taking the same mystery ariza shakes that manny was taking when he was knocking everyone out at his peak. whatever was in those shakes certainly made khan more durable than he is at his current form.
I'd like to see:
Floyd-Maidana
Broner-Matthysse
Khan-Porter
Thurman-Malinaggi
that would be a great card. no way broner-matthysse happens at this point though unfortunately.
so basically theres no-one for floyd in september.....
someone will emerge if golden boy matches up some solid matchmaking this summer. they need a marquee undercard fight on this may card though so it doesn't tank
khan-broner is too risky for broner......wont happen. plus if broner wins, who fights floyd in september and if khan wins, theres gonna be complications because of Ramadan which finishes july 29th.
that september date could very well be tricky. GBP has a ton of potential foes for Mayweather that won't be ready to challenge him just yet. The guys like Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, and Shawn Porter are all still gaining experience or in Danny's case adjusting to a move up in weight soon. Matthysse was a viable option until Danny beat him and now he has to get back on track with some solid wins to be in the running. The best fight out there is really Erislandy Lara who is too high risk low reward for Floyd and Lara doesn't bring a big fan base.
For anyone thinking Canelo Alvarez or Shane Mosley is a bigger puncher than Marcos Maidana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae-HUvh9y20&feature=youtu.be&t=12m2s
Josesito Lopez says Maidana is, by a long shot, a bigger puncher than Canelo.
I have a source. What are you basing your opinion on?
and he has been in the ring with both. chino punches harder by a longshot. there it is.
May 5th is a good time because it taps into the Mexican fan base, which is arguably the largest in the sport. It's not necessary on many levels, but on the one level that matters most (business), it's a must.
and yet guerrero was still a failed ppv on this lucrative date. Khan would have been a complete fight on this date. GBP must realize having atleast a latino argentino in maidana will bring in more mexican viewers than khan will. the hardcore boxing fans don't want to see khan rewarded this fight coming off of 2 tune up wins. it is about earning the opportunity. if khan had beaten broner, lopez and karass he would have gotten this opportunity but he did not. he sat on the sidelines waiting for the handout and now has to deal with the consequences. its his own fault. he could have taken the alexander fight and still fought in may. he just didn't want to risk the loss and thats his fault for not taking the gamble to put himself in the right position.
To answer your question, Victor Ortiz.
Ortiz is a solid puncher and that definitely came to mind. That fight was definitely getting interesting before the strange KO took place. It was interesting theater while it lasted though
Maybe. You asked whens the last time Mayweather faced somebody with fight ending KO power. The gif I posted shows that his last opponent has ended a fight with a single shot. Maidanas power advantage, if he does even have one over Canelo, is not enough to make much of a difference, if at all.
Do you think Maidana will sell out more and take more risks than Canelo did?
You've got maidana vs Broner and Rigo covered so I'm happy lol.
How about the Garcia Vs. Matthysse fight?
I, like a lot of people, thought Garcia wasn't ready for what Lucas would bring but he equipped himself brilliantly (even though i thought the swollen eye played a big role). Would love to learn more about what he did in that fight
the garcia-matthysse fight would be a great fight to make a video on
you could argue that Mosley punches harder. You could also argue that Canelo is a harder puncher when you factor in the size and weight advantage
Canelo and Mosley don't have the KO ratio of Chino. Granted Mosley was in with better competition. I can see the arguement of Canelo if you argue he hurt Lopez faster than Maidana did but the size disparity in that fight was very wide as you alluded to. Mosley is more of a physically strong fighter but not necessarily a huge puncher after he moved up from lightweight. Maidana dropped Broner early for the first time in his career. I think that fight was the fight where Maidana finally adjusted to the WW division. Even when he was small for the division he was able to KO Soto Karass faster than Thurman did. Maidana hasn't actually had the 1 punch KO power as he has faced top competition as one might argue but he has badly hurt Broner, Ortiz, Karass, Lopez and Khan and mutilated Morales' face. Canelo beat up a small Lopez. I'd say Canelo has a lot to do before his punching power can be compared to Chino's
I actually want to see Malignaggi-Mosley. Malignaggi is not an elite fighter in an elite division and has a belt. The minute he fights an Alexander, Bradley, Guerrero, Ortiz, Berto, hell probably even Maidana he gets raped and loses his title. Even Zab Judah could probably go grab that. I am somewhat amuzed and want to see how long this fluke championship can last. He already had a controversial win to the likes of Pablo Cano. Mosley is shot but he has a good chance in this fight. He will atleast be competitive. I don't have a problem with competitive fights with marquee names. This fight will be much more competitve than Pacquiao-Mosley was thats for sure. But I agree with Arum that the Hopkins snoozefest isn't one to salivate over. Hopkins survivalist style is hard to swallow and I'm no longer fascinated saying "look at this old man survive with the best fighters in his division". You know for sure you are going to be in for a boring fight no matter who Hopkins fights at this point.