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pac was just measuring cotto's power, thats why he was inviting him early by standing still -- high guard. once cotto tasted pacs power, he was hesitant to throw the jab, for fear of being countered... and how was it wrong for cotto to trade power bombs with pac. isn't it suppose to be cottos advantage if pac decides to go toe to toe? remember cotto is suppose to be stronger, and puncher harder!

Please... They made cotto come down two extra pounds for a reason, to zap some of his power and it worked. It was part of the game plan, now a rematch at the full 147... ; ) LOL. then cotto should have been weight drained when he fought clottey as he was weighing 146 in that fight. i've seen the fight at least 3x already. cotto's quick and has been snapping the jabs and hooks to the body early. so signs of being weight-drained (he even looked very good in the weigh in. once he felt mannys power, he became tentative with his punches. cotto's been known to gased-out after 6. no surprise here. so weight-drained? naah more of ha nuthugger excuse

Cotto skinny face tells the story. preach your excuse somewhere....fools dont belong here.

im thinking: pacman #1 pound for pound already an ATG 7 division champion mayweather former pound for pound undefeated 5 division champ what does pac gets when fighting mayweather? and what does mayweather get when fighting pac. they way i look at it, mayweather needs pac.

The thing is if you don't want to fight and are taking a one sided beating the ref should stop it. It was a very good stoppage. it should have been the corner's decision. once cotto was doing his bicycle, it must have been clear to them that their fighter is in survival mode. this clearly shows that inexperienced corner can be scary!!!! you cannot fault the ref's as he was only giving cotto every ounce of a chance to turn the tide.

He choose to weigh in at 146 vs Clottey, He HAD to weigh in under 145 vs Pacquiao, thats the difference. This was a great win for Pacquiao and theres no excuses BUT this was not a real welterweight fight, if it was a real welterweight fight then the limit would have been 147 not 145. but then again. cotto chooses to fight pac at 145 -- it was his free will to fight him at the stipulated weight. beside you saw his physique during weigh-in. he was fresh, strong, and chiseled so i think he was comfortable with the weight

as intriguing as it seem. jmm is already at the twilight of his career. he has lose a step or two. the serious beating he took from pbf may have adverse effect on him -- at this stage of his career..right now, pitting him against pac doesn't interest me. i'd say jmm goes back to 135, clean the division then retire happy. for pac -- bigger fish to fry.

sometimes quitting aint that bad. if cotto did say "stop the fight when something happens" i think its an intelligent decision... by round 9 everyone knows he can no longer pull an upset. would you risk your health just for the sake being called a warrior. what good is a fighter with heart if he's a vegestable. he'll live to fight another day. don't compare him to marg, because marg is a fool.

what surprises me is when he stood still in front of cotto and allow him to punch away. it also suprises me how he just took cottos punches like it was from calderon.

two pounds makes a huge difference, especially if you end up cutting mucle or too much fat. he cut down to 145 so much that his body didnt rebound once hydrated. just like dela hoyas. cotto looked like he was 145lbs lastnight. realistically, he was 145-150lbs. dudes usually goes back to 160 or close. they forced him to cut too much weight and that was roaches plan. dude was weightdrained...no questions aasked to some it may hold true but for cotto? he was 146 in his last fight. going down to 145 doesnt necessarily mean cutting muscles or lossing to much fat. its 1 pound.. for chissake

I agree, welterweight limit is at 147 therefore this was not a real welterweight fight. Pacquiao is still a great fighter though. so cotto aint a real ww champion to begin with. he weigh 146 against clottey. im just following your analogy. 141-147 fyi is within the welterweight limit. it was a catchweight at 145 -- but still within welterweight right?

I didn't expect Hatton to walk right in to him. He needed to defend/survive the early rounds and when Pac got a little tired, that is when Hatton should have gone to work. The Hatton I knew would of won. stop smoking crack and get a life. Pac tiring in later rounds while hatton stay fresh???

that is a wrong analogy. Mayweather aint the police! NSAC is, and AFAIK pac has no complaints on NSAC's drug testing routine.

Marquez wins by decision. And its funny to hear that skill wise manny is on the same level as Marquez. All Pacquiao fans always forget that Morales kicked Pacquiaos ass in the first fight. And Pacquiao didn't fight Soto or Guzman, were still waiting for Pacquiao to fight a prime fighter at 130. And Soto v. Guzman was a very close fight that could have gone either way. 1st fight was forgotten because pac has made the adjustment... maybe yo ought to see pac-em 2nd and 3rd fight. so you will know, after that trilogy -- pac came out a different figther. Whose Guzman, Soto, and Valero... pac dont need them, instead they need pac -- they should step up their competition to be worthy of him. If you're the top dog in the division, its you who waits... let those names prove their worth. Only then pac fights them

Am not shocked at all, I laugh when people picked Cotto to beat him especially non-peurto rican people, If you see how Pac and cotto's last three fight went then you would definitely pick pac over cotto. You cant hurt what you cant see and i have been saying the speed factor would be too much for cotto. im with you in this one... but pac allowed himself to get hit. he taunted cotto to bring it to him. still it didnt buckle him. Those jabs, that knocked down clottey, pac take it like mosquito bites.

everyone's got a gameplan... until they get HIT!!! --Mirko Cro cop If MAB wasnt able stop Marquez barrage in the later rounds, i dont see him stopping pac's pressure from 1 - end. You give much emphasis on how intelligent MAB is -- yes he is a thinking fighter -- but at age 33, what your mind can conceive doesnt mean your body can achieve. Good luck to MAB... i hope he gets out of the fight safely.

this rules out the excuse ... that cotto was "not himself" or "1-pound weigh drained".... he looked quick, strong and very fresh coming into the fight. It may have been the best cotto shape ive seen.

too bad people believe to much on speculation? was there any test that proved pac is on PED??? every fight, tests were conducted and so far pac passed all. the problem here is "A LIE WHICH IS TOLD OVER AND OVER... BECOMES THE TRUTH"... and most people in this forum are too quick to judge. its not a question whether pac does or does not want the test.... PAC will allow testing, but the question is WHEN. i believe the test (drug /urinalysis) conducted right after the fight (in the locker room) is the most crucial of all -- to which pac would also allow. how many title fights did pbf have? and of all those previous fights, had he required olympic style testing? why/why not? is professional boxing testing routine not enough?

all the blame goes to "the joke coach" sr. If he had not been obsessed in making pathetic poems targeted at team pac, instead keeping his focused on training/disciplining hatton, the fight would have been a little competitive.

You don't seem to have read the post of mine that you were replying to, which was about lack of head movement, moving in straight lines, and keeping his hands low, not about speed or punch resistance. You haven't responded to even one of the points that I raised in my post. You're also misrepresenting what I said in the past: everyone is slow in comparison to Pacquiao, with the possible exception of Mayweather; but that's not what you said in the past when I disagreed with you. You said then that Hatton is slow full stop, and he is certainly not that, especially not in terms of foot movement. And the knock down punches that Hatton was hit with last night would have put Morales and Barrera down as well, Hatton's problem was that he left his chin out to dry - just as he did against Lazcano. But as for why he failed to show any head movement last night, whereas he showed a fair amount of head movement against Malignaggi and Tackie; or why he moved only in straight lines line last night, whereas he showed a lot more angles against Malignaggi and Tackie; and why he kept his hands so much lower than he normally does, you haven't responded to any of those points. If you don't have a thoughtful explanation for those things, why bother replying at all? ive seen and reviewed the fight for at least 7 times already. RH did have some head movements early, but due to MP elusiveness, he was punching air. it seem it frustrated him, then he reverted back his old self. hatton is fast, but against pac, he's punches looks like 3/4 slomo

This is a head-to-head. Alden thinks Marquez is going to win.. Has this kid been wrong yet? Alden thinks Marquez is going to win.. Has this kid been wrong yet? Well Alden picked Paul Williams over Quintana. He never even gave the guy a chance -- other than making the distance. Search for Alden Chodash Show Feb6 edition.