As it wasn't a welterweight fight, it was a catchweight fight. If it was a Welterweight fight, Cotto could of come in at 147. So in my eyes Pac isn't really a 147 champion, due it not being a 147 fight. FACT........
two pounds makes a huge difference, especially if you end up cutting mucle or too much fat.
he cut down to 145 so much that his body didnt rebound once hydrated.
just like dela hoyas.
cotto looked like he was 145lbs lastnight. realistically, he was 145-150lbs. dudes usually goes back to 160 or close.
they forced him to cut too much weight and that was roaches plan. dude was weightdrained...no questions aasked
Go ahead, post everything you know about boxing. It'll only take 5 seconds.
As it wasn't a welterweight fight, it was a catchweight fight. If it was a Welterweight fight, Cotto could of come in at 147. So in my eyes Pac isn't really a 147 champion, due it not being a 147 fight. FACT........
I bet your brain feels as good as new, seeing that you've never used it.
Fukkin moron :rofl:
seiously like it would had made a diffrance.....
141-147 is WW anyway
but your saying it like if cotto came in at 147 he would had made a differance.
fuk out of here :lol1:
I agree, welterweight limit is at 147 therefore this was not a real welterweight fight. Pacquiao is still a great fighter though.
OK, Miguel would have lost regardless. Just Friday people were saying Cotto was n the best shape of his life...look what good it did. Excuses, excuses
i feel the title is tainted as it wasnt at 147, however its cottos own fault for accepting 145 with the title on the line, he didnt have to put it on the line. so no1 he can blame but himself.
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He did have to put the title on the line, get your facts right before you post! Franshitso Valcarcel, the WBO President, told Cotto and Pac that this would have to be for the title. At first Cotto said it was not because it was at a catchweight but he was forced to defend it because Franky boy said that it was still under the welterweight limit, which is bullshit! If it was a welterweight limit fight, then he should of been allowed to weigh the limit of 147. Either way it's no excuse and Pacman did his job and Cotto didn't! I am a Cotto fan, but he was dominated by Pacman. Pacman has earned my respect as a legitimate threat to anyone. Will Gayweather ever fight him, highly doubtful because he will do whatever he can to make the fight not happen. Gayweather will come with the bullshit that he is the attraction and should get 75% of the pot and Pac 25%, when everyone knows he couldn't attract flies to shit! If anything the fight should be 60% Pac, 40% Gayweather and that's being real generous!
you clowns keep talking about, "oh cotto fought clottey at 146, 145 isnt that big of a deal"
well if pac is campaigning at WW, and they wanted cottos belt which was won at 147, how come roach didnt agree to fight at 146, let alone 147?
b/che knew that extra lbs would tax cottos body. Roach plans this shit...why are yall acting like this isnt roach's MO
I don't have the fight night weights, but I would assume that Cotto weighed around Jnr Middleweight.
please tell me what cottos weight was on fight night with clottey vs manny. the difference between the two fight night weights will tell you how bad cutting 1lbs was for cotto
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no im saying that the welterweight division spans from 141-147... they dont HAVE to weigh 147 to be in the WW division... Seeing as the wbo sanctioned the fight, and cotto chose to defend it, i think ur the only one that has a problem with those punk ass 2 lbs....
and where in my post did i say i had a promble with it you punk ass cunt
Is it a Junior Welter Weight fight?
No because the limit is 140.
Anything above that, and not above the 147 LIMIT, is pretty much a WW fight to me.
It could have been a 147 limit without the 145 stipulation, and they still probably would have come in at a very similar weight. Cotto came in at 146 against Clottey, so were talking about a measely pound right here. Plus they change weights so much come fight night often it really is splitting hairs.
WW.
I rate manny very highly , but all this catchweight crap, is one of the reason's why i dont rate him as high as sugar ray robinson, duran, armstrong and langford. Also hatton, oscar and cotto have all looked drained and weak when they thought pacman, i want to see many against a fresh hungry lion like paul williams, floyd mayweather, valero or devon alexander
cotto is drained? :bryce: your brain is the one that is drained! stop excuses loser!
and how much did he weigh on fight night against CLottey? now contrast what with his weight on fight night with Pac. cotto was thin as shit last night
his body didnt rebound after hydrating b/c of having to make 145. so that tells you how hard it is to cut 1 lbs. thus you see the toll it takes on your body too
we arent talking about 1lbs of water weight. this is dry weight
cotto shoudl have agreed to 145 weight. its his fault and he lost as a result. but 145 wasnt good for cottos body
that is the biggest load of bull I've read yet.
two pounds makes a huge difference, especially if you end up cutting mucle or too much fat.
he cut down to 145 so much that his body didnt rebound once hydrated.
just like dela hoyas.
cotto looked like he was 145lbs lastnight. realistically, he was 145-150lbs. dudes usually goes back to 160 or close.
they forced him to cut too much weight and that was roaches plan. dude was weightdrained...no questions aasked
to some it may hold true but for cotto? he was 146 in his last fight. going down to 145 doesnt necessarily mean cutting muscles or lossing to much fat. its 1 pound.. for chissake
Cotto never should have either if you want to apply certain things all around. Cotto won it by default because Paul Williams moved out of the division.
two pounds makes a huge difference, especially if you end up cutting mucle or too much fat.
he cut down to 145 so much that his body didnt rebound once hydrated.
just like dela hoyas.
cotto looked like he was 145lbs lastnight. realistically, he was 145-150lbs. dudes usually goes back to 160 or close.
they forced him to cut too much weight and that was roaches plan. dude was weightdrained...no questions aasked
STFU! ANother excuse! just accept the fact! loser!
two pounds makes a huge difference, especially if you end up cutting mucle or too much fat.
he cut down to 145 so much that his body didnt rebound once hydrated.
just like dela hoyas.
cotto looked like he was 145lbs lastnight. realistically, he was 145-150lbs. dudes usually goes back to 160 or close.
they forced him to cut too much weight and that was roaches plan. dude was weightdrained...no questions aasked
excuses, excuses.
he weight exactly 1 lbs heavier against Clottey, plus he started a full month before Pac, which meant he wasn't CUTTING weight to get there.
so are your saying 145 is new welterweight limit
can you tell me when the welterweight limit was change from 147 to 145
no im saying that the welterweight division spans from 141-147... they dont HAVE to weigh 147 to be in the WW division... Seeing as the wbo sanctioned the fight, and cotto chose to defend it, i think ur the only one that has a problem with those punk ass 2 lbs....