And that's coming from a big Mayweather fan. I've been a fan of his skills like a lot for a long time.
But Pacman is proving too much vs old Mayweather foes (Hatton, DLH) in more impressive fashion
He's eclipsed Mayweather in the "I've won 5 titles in 5 weight classes" argument
He has a bigger list of HOFers and "names" on his record
He's the bigger draw and something Floyd hasn't allowed himself to be, likeable
He's considered (and rightfully so) the #1 P4P fighter in the world
He's embarrassing and stopping jr welters and welterweights
And he's doing it all with a crowd pleasing style.
I agree with your post some what. I think pbf is a atg from what he has done at the lower weights and moving up and gaining the title at ww. Now this is not to say I am happy with the fights he has fought at ww after gaining the title. In fact, I think he should have fought cotto before he took time off. But for either of the two to be called the greatest of any generation they will have to fight each other. IMO they need each other. It's the fight everyone wants to see.
im thinking:
pacman
#1 pound for pound
already an ATG
7 division champion
mayweather
former pound for pound
undefeated
5 division champ
what does pac gets when fighting mayweather? and what does mayweather get when fighting pac.
they way i look at it, mayweather needs pac.
lol at this post. Before pac fought DLH he was a great small fighter , nobody knew then that he could be so great at higher weights. If floyd fought the pre - delahoya pac he would get a sh.it load of criticism .
Floyd alway have criticism with every fighter he fights.
The hate for Floyd blinded most people's judgment.
Yes, in life there are people who are jerks but good at what they do. And Floyd is one of them.
For me I dont take Floyd, Pac or whole of boxing personal because I dont know the person to hate him.
Even before the DHL fight Floyd need Pac more than Pac need Floyd.
Pac is more famous than the Philipino president so beating him will bring alot of free publicity
lol at this post. Before pac fought DLH he was a great small fighter , nobody knew then that he could be so great at higher weights. If floyd fought the pre - delahoya pac he would get a sh.it load of criticism .
Even before the DHL fight Floyd need Pac more than Pac need Floyd.
Pac is more famous than the Philipino president so beating him will bring alot of free publicity
The same guy who his trainer Roach dogged all of his opponents before the fight? Roach said Diaz was nothing, Oscar was drained, Hatton wasnt any good, and Cotto was shot but yet Pac's legacy is set in stone? On top of that he hasnt came anywhere near a black man but yet he's a done deal without fighting the undefeated guy who retired #1? People love Pac so he's always going to get the benefit of doubt and they hate Floyd so he will never get the benefit but people still willl always question wether or not Pac couldve beat Floyd. Floyd is still the one thats undefeated and thats a huge number. All the mainstream fans look at that. It means something. They both want the fight so there is no use of making threads like this. In some ways they both need it but both want it so it will get done
Roach has said a lot of things in hsi time, just like Roger and even Mayweather himself. That doesn't mean it's all true.
Floyd fights people who he says are too small and then after says they are great. It goes both ways.
Both need each other and so does boxing.
The same guy who his trainer Roach dogged all of his opponents before the fight? Roach said Diaz was nothing, Oscar was drained, Hatton wasnt any good, and Cotto was shot but yet Pac's legacy is set in stone?
Im pretty sure Roach will say that Floyd is a cherry picking runner, once the fight is made..
Also...last Black guy Floyd fought was X POSED by white dude and latin dude BEFORE Floyd got in the ring w/him..So this fighting a black dude thing is stupid....
So Pac doesn't need Floyd? Is that why every interview asked will he fight Floyd next? Why the crowd chanted we want Floyd, why everyone in boxing is talking bout Floyd??
we WANT.....WE DONT NEED....
The same guy who his trainer Roach dogged all of his opponents before the fight? Roach said Diaz was nothing, Oscar was drained, Hatton wasnt any good, and Cotto was shot but yet Pac's legacy is set in stone? On top of that he hasnt came anywhere near a black man but yet he's a done deal without fighting the undefeated guy who retired #1? People love Pac so he's always going to get the benefit of doubt and they hate Floyd so he will never get the benefit but people still willl always question wether or not Pac couldve beat Floyd. Floyd is still the one thats undefeated and thats a huge number. All the mainstream fans look at that. It means something. They both want the fight so there is no use of making threads like this. In some ways they both need it but both want it so it will get done
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The same guy who his trainer Roach dogged all of his opponents before the fight? Roach said Diaz was nothing, Oscar was drained, Hatton wasnt any good, and Cotto was shot but yet Pac's legacy is set in stone? On top of that he hasnt came anywhere near a black man but yet he's a done deal without fighting the undefeated guy who retired #1? People love Pac so he's always going to get the benefit of doubt and they hate Floyd so he will never get the benefit but people still willl always question wether or not Pac couldve beat Floyd. Floyd is still the one thats undefeated and thats a huge number. All the mainstream fans look at that. It means something. They both want the fight so there is no use of making threads like this. In some ways they both need it but both want it so it will get done
Negative Ghost rider...
you are in DENIAL.....
FLOYD" im not caling out any welters and have nothing left to prove " when asked about fighting Cotto....then comes out of retirement to fight JMM lol...
Manny stepped up to the plate..Something Floyd just will NOT do......
But fighters who avoid black fighters and fight fighters who are past it is?Your logic is pretty funny.
sorry but WITHOUT YOUR "GREAT" BLACK FIGHTERs he has risen well above any of your CURRENT BLACK FIGHTERS. suck a fat one. cry babies forreal. the hate and bullshit from you peoples (gayweather fans) becomes more and more realized as pacquiao rises above EVERYTHING that mayweather was.
PACQUIAO IS PUTTING HIM TO SHAME.
P4P TRUE WARRIOR. not P4P TRUE DUCKER.
Don`t let these clowns fool you.They saying "Pac does`nt need Floyd" cause they are lying to themselves cause they are scared shitless of Floyd shaterring the illusion of Pac.
Stop riding Gayweather's d*** you clown. :Flush:
They will just be complete after fighting each other.
That's the only truth.
An ultimate defensive boxer against the ultimate offensive boxer.
Must Happen.
People know me here, I am a sensible guy. I.......kind of agree. I mean as a career ending fight Manny could retire right now and Cotto would be icing on the cake. Floyd needs that "Yeah, that guy is one of the greatest to ever do it" no debate type fights. This is literally the biggest fight in our sports history, Shame on everyone if this doesn't happen.
He's a clown though, so most probably he's not feeling the same thing. "peeleft: Besides, he can always f*** his meaningless "0" whenever he wants to boost his ego and lie to himself. :pat:
So Pac doesn't need Floyd? Is that why every interview asked will he fight Floyd next? Why the crowd chanted we want Floyd, why everyone in boxing is talking bout Floyd??
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