People seem to forget the beatdowns he put on Ledwaba or Julio.
Lesser fighters, but the beatdowns were just as brutal.
you're right. i think ledwaba got a nasty beating. he almost looked as if he was coughing out blood and his cheeks were badly bruised
if pac is with GBP the pac-cotto fight could not have happened, even the hatton fight. however the pac-marquez trilogy could have been completed already. pac may not have moved up to welterweight as fast as he did with Top Rank coz GBP has many fighters in the LW division and oscar will make pac fight the likes of katsidis, casamayor, etc.
if pac was with GBP, he would not have achieved his greatness coz oscar will not make pac move up to WW, imo.
and lastly, i dont even think the pac-floyd fight will ever happen, not even conceived. first, floyd will not move to GBP coz he will have his economic rival in the same stable. oscar will prioritize pac coz he is younger. and, granted floyd will also move to GBP, i dont see the fight happening still. pac's move to WW, if ever, will be delayed coz of oscar's LW fighters. by the time pac is in the WW, floyd is already happily retired, and out of pac's reach.
:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Mayweather 0 losses
Pacquiao 3 losses and a draw
That says it all
am i reading a post from a 3d grader? LOL
AGAIN, the reason why i posted this thread is because BS said floyd is number 1 coz one of the reasons is that he did not ask for catchweight.
since when did i contend their record? LOL
go look for the right thread for your post, little girl
You do know that Mayweather was a light flyweight in the Amateurs at the same age as Pac was when he started his Pro career.
ah ok... you mean amateurs with highly padded gloves, shorter rounds, maximum of 4 rounds, and, oh, head gear? yah right!
pac at 16 was fighting guys older than him - 3 minute rounds, mimimum of 6 round per bouts in his first few fights, and, hey wait - without head gear!
i got your point ;-)
They were around the same size at the same age, Mayweather was smart and polished his skills before turning pro.
let me clear this out, im talking about professional boxing: standard gloves, 3 minute 12 round max bout, NO HEAD GEAR.
my contention is pac started his pro career at 105 lbs and will be fighting at 151 lbs (difference of 46 lbs), his heaviest.
gayweather started his pro career at 130 lbs and his heaviest was at 154 lbs (difference of 24 lbs), his heaviest
if one of the justifications why floyd is #1 p4p, as per boxingscene, is that he did not fight at catchweights, then i dont buy that. they should edit that part coz it's basically nonsense.
You've heard of a Jack Ass right?
Well youre a PacAss......
whatever.... you gotta admit i made a good point right? imagine... pac started at 105. if he made the same 24 lbs jump, which is floyd's heaviest weight difference (from 130 lbs - 154 lbs), and that would land him (pac) fighting at superfeatherweight (130 lbs) at least. pac never asked for catchweights only until at least fighting at welterweight.
now if floyd will do the same amount of weight pac jumped (total of at least 140 lbs) then floyd could have at least be fighting at lightheavyweight. floyd never fought beyond the superwelterweight division.
so this is my question:
does floyd have the balls to fight at the light heavyweight division without asking for a catchweight? honestly i dont think so.
pac: started at 105 lbs; heaviest fight 147 lbs. (a difference of 42 lbs.) next fight will be at 151 lbs (a difference of 46 lbs!)
floyd: started at 130 lbs; heaviest fight at 154 lbs. (a difference of 24 lbs)
They were around the same size at the same age, Mayweather was smart and polished his skills before turning pro.
and mayweather was fighting amateurs, you said? LOL and of course you do know pac was fighting professional boxing already.
floyd = shorter rounds, 4 rounds per bout, pillows for gloves, HEADGEAR
pac = well, you do know how professional boxing looks like, right?
i was trying to make a point that pac experienced more adversity at an early age coz he did not fight with pillows for gloves, headgears, etc.
and by the way this is about the BS p4p ranking. the last time i checked, amateur career is not included.
pac never turned down a fight
peanut marquez should taunt arum not pac. his shirt did not only showed he has no class, but he has no brains as well. it's not pac who is calling the shots, it's arum.
marquez is a poorly educated border crossing mexican burro
As for the opponent both fought good opponents but Montiel was the better more impressive win..So Doniare..But better KO was Rios..
donaire's KO was more devastating