no he shud fight angulo!!!!!!. but cintron cud be great as well unless he chose to jump out of the ring..
Why fight Angulo and not fight Cintron since Cintron beat Angulo?
Plus Cintron is ranked higher than Angulo
Yeah.
Probably not..
he hits so hard that it took him 12 full rounds to put away a old faded mayogra
It took Mosley 12 rounds to KO Mayorga, Vargas couldn't KO Mayorga.
Cotto got more KO than Martinez
What happened to the judge that was a middle man for the negotiation. He might be able to clear stuff up. Why doesn't Arum make a contract, have Pacman signed, take a picture or a video and send the contract to mayweather. Then post a copy of the contract so we could see it???
I think Quintana wants the rubber match.
Many people thought Martinez beat Williams the first time.
Nobody thinks that Williams beat Quintana the first time.
Most of what you say is not worth a response. But here you're telling half of the truth. Both fighters took the fight on short notice and both were training for different opponents.
Martinez was training but he did not have an opponent. While Williams was training for for Pavlik since September.
Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=22575#ixzz1MvByCYvL
http://www.boxingscene.com/sergio-martinez-hey-vanes-you-forget-my-name--22575
10/02/2009
By Rick Reeno
On Friday morning, BoxingScene.com posted an open letter from undefeated junior middleweight Vanes Martirosyan. In the letter, Vanes called out some of the names at 154-pounds, including Alfredo Angulo, Cory Spinks, Sergei Dzinziruk and Paul Williams. Feeling left out, WBC champion Sergio Martinez has come knocking.
Martinez is looking for a fight in December. If Vanes wants a shot at the title, Martinez is prepared to make the fight.
"Hey Vanes, did you forget my name or are you another p*ssy like Sergio Mora and Joshua Clottey? What big fight are you looking for? I'm ready for you right now. You don't need to look for anyone else - I'm right here. You want a big title shot? Let's do it in December. I'll fight anyone for my country. Are you willing to do the same for your country? Don't be a coward. Show some balls," Martinez said.
Because he's BLACK!
It doesn't matter if Paul Williams beats Pacquiao this year. The hate won't stop.
Look at the hate President Obama gets? And this is even AFTER he executed the plan to murder Osama Bin Laden (something bush failed at).
Look at the hate Floyd gets, look at the hate Hopkins gets, look at the hate Williams gets, look at the hate Roy Jones used to get, etc...
Some people just can't get over their hangups toowards black people.
That's why its such big news around here when a black fighter gets KO'd. It's like a party is thrown everytime one loses.
Look how many threads the haters created when Paul WIlliams and James Kirkland got ko'd.
Look at the daily hate threads created for Mayweather. Look at the overall lack of respect for Andre Ward around here.
It's quite hilarious.
Human beings rarely give an ounce of time to anything that seems non-threatening or boring.
Blacks have received the most attention and hate in this country since the 1600s.
Dig deep and everyone will have the answer as to why...
Don't use the race card. it gets old. Obama didn't do anything to catch Osama. It is like my boss taking credit for something I did at work just because he authorized me to do it. The intelligence department found Osama. Navy seals killed him. Obama just sat in a desk and gave the order. I guess Bush could take credit for killing Hussein.
No because there is no interest in a third fight right now. If Quintana could get a win against someone like Angulo then maybe. Also Quintana Williams 1 was not controversial like Martinez Williams so they are two different situations.
they should get a good win and then fight each other.
What happened in the second fight of both fights?
yea but in one of them many people thought Martinez won the fight but in the Quintana fight nobody thought Williams won.
Pavlik and Martinez fight nothing alike and Martinez is a southpaw. Williams training for Pavlik does not prepare him for Martinez. Both were training and both took the fight on short notice. What part of that do you not understand?
I understand they took in short notice, but it is not the same. Martinez was getting ready to fight a nobody, it was a 10 round non-title fight than getting ready for Pavlik.
Either way it does not matter.
My original statement was that Cotto has accomplished more than Paul Williams
Fighters can pick or choose what fights they want and don't want. Paul Williams didn't have to take the fight. He could have fought an easier opponent on another network. Kind of like your boy Cotto choosing easy fights after getting his ass kicked by Pacquiao.
His boy Cotto is a 3 weight class world champ. Your boy is past his prime and 1 weight class world champ.
Edit:
We do not even know when was Paul Williams prime.
Lost to Quintana and then beat him, Then fought Andy Kole, Verno Phillips(39 years old), and Winky Wright (38 years old and almost 2 years inactive)
LOL now you're just going way off topic. Why don't you go back to the original post. I'm not going to explain it to you again.
You're just trying to create a pointless debate. Bored?
After Pacquiao, Cotto fought Mayorga and Foreman.
After Quintana, Williams fought Quintana, Kolle, Phillips, and Wright. He took 3 easy fights, and the first Martinez fight Martinez took it in a short notice.
One difference is Williams actually beat Margarito. But Margarito made Cotto submit on his knees.
And try to stay on topic genius.
Wow!
Margarito beat Cotto and Williams beat Margarito. We all know that.
Quintana beat Williams and Cotto made Quintana quit.
Also, Martinez put Williams to sleep and Margarito beat Martinez.
So what's your point genius??
Idk why Paul gets so much hate, he comes to fight eveytime. These guys here that diss black fighters say its not cuz their black but cuz they run and don't really stand there and fight. Ok, Paul doesn't run and straight up fights. Why people hate on him so much?????
It might be because he is the "Most Feared" boxer?
Williams and his trainer over hype themselves.
Cotto is not taking tough challenges right now and certainly not compared to Williams. Which was my point. If you disagree maybe you can explain why with your misspelled insults.
Yes I went to his level to use an example of how stupid he sounded. Then you came in like Captain save a Ho with your childish comments. You're just as dumb as he is.
So you come to tell me that Winky Wright at age 39 with 2 years lay off is a challenge?
or Phillips at age 39 is a challange, and Andy Kolle.
Margarito, Quintana, Martinez, and Cintron for Williams were challanges.
Clottey, Judah, Margarito, Pacquiao, Mosley, and Quintana were challenges to Cotto.
Williams got 2 more fights than Cotto and who's resume is better??
I was just reading it and click to the next page and nothing.
About the other thread, I was just thinking the same thing. He was a blown up lightweight for Mayweather but for Pacquiao is OK.
Puerto Rican boxer needs to get out of the island and start training in places like big bear. I see that pressure fighters are giving them problems.
Ex;
Calderon vs Segura
Cotto vs Margarito
Vazquez vs Arce
They need more stamina.
Hopkins hasn't knocked someone out in almost 7 years. He is not hurting people left and right.
He should take the test but it was requested in a press conference.
Another thing that is different is that one made different excuses while the other just said "no". Is there any footage of Hopkins saying hs is not taking the test?
If pacquiao's job ie too train, why the catchweight? And the penalties for coming over the weight? I thought that's the commission's job.
How is Hopkins a freak of nature? He hasn't knocked out someone in 7 years.
He doesnt get all the roid hate because he's black, if he was white or asian he would get 1000 threads and news reports about how he's on steroids, but nope Black people get a pass on everything racism (Only black people are allowed to be racist).
I think that Bernard and 50% of the boxers are on some sort of crap thats not legal. Do they know they are using it? Not all of them, but it makes you wonder.
Does he need to be tested tho? Not unless you test everyone who fights for a title with an independant test done by someone who has no affiliation ($$$) with a promoter/fighter/etc.
Unless you have strict testing done on Title fights by 3rd party non biased agencies then people will ALWAYS cheat the system.
What does Bernard have to lose by juicing? NOTHING.
Hes already old, his reputation is already of a racist and being known as dirtiest fighter in boxing history. Its not like he has anything to lose. He's been spitting in peoples face and laughing when he breaks the rules so its not like this is such a far stretch for him to juice.
I still say dont test him unless you test EVERYONE who competes for a title fight. I dont know why this hasnt been done by the WBO/WBA/WBC/IBF,etc.
Does Barry Bond sound familiar to you??? He looks black to me.