Arum confirms Manny has agreed to random blood testing

I don't know what kind of excuse will floyd do just to duck pac again.

There was no video. The link was dead. What are you talking about? you know, its as simple as going to youtube and typing "pacquiao agrees to take the test" at the search box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4jfLKD0Mg

You do not need every major news outlet from every major cities around the world to be reporting on it like the ESPN.com or Wall Street Journal, or even the NY Times, when you have the person being interviewed is caught on video saying it as it is through his own mouth, not even Larry King can dispute that... Manny already agreed to OSDT, listen to him at the 2:15 mark, this interview was done before the Margarito fight... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmqeBye3KhA Yeah and you do know that before the Margarito fight on 24/7 they said he agreed to the tests but with a 7 day cut off right? I think this whole thing is becoming stupid but I will agree with the flomos on one thing, Manny hasn't said he will take random tests up until the day before the fight and last time I checked that was the kind of testing floyd asked for

LMAO@ "links that say pac is agreeing to take the tests are all over the place homie". Yes, there are links all over the place that state Pacquiao will take the tests. However, my simple minded compadre, you will not find a story that says Pacquiao has agreed to take the random USADA TESTS UP UNTIL THE DAY OF THE FIGHT ON ANY REPUTABLE INTERNET SITE!!! See, you'll find all types of **** on Filipino sites, blogs and boxing forums. Its understood that those types of places are meant for opinions and entertainment. However, REAL news outlets can be sued for printing something false. They are held responsible for what they print. If Pacquiao went on record and said to someone with press credentials that he was willing to take random USADA tests up until the day of the fight, every major news outlet would be reporting it from ESPN.com to the Wall Street Journal to the Huff Post to the NY Times. That's the sad part about pactards: They start a thread like this by posting a link to a filipino rag site that's even less reputable as the National Enquirer. Then they spread the link to that story around to make it seem like everyone is picking up the story. But people with more than a 2nd grade education realize that none of the big media outlets are going near this story with a 10 foot pole. When you see major news outlets ignoring what should be a huge story, it sets off red flags that the pactards are once again trying to protect their investment in the world of sports as they have so little. Poor little pactards are new to being on the world stage of ANYTHING, and that's why they go to such irrational and childish lengths to be racist, dishonest and deliberately disingenuous. The above post by me really shows that Pacquiao and Arum are no different than the pactards themselves. Lies, deceit, semantics and dog and pony shows. Its clear that Pacquiao needs that kind of **** to be seen as a contender. Manny needs Arum's spin doctoring. Manny needs catchweights in divisions that he can make the weight. Manny needs to avoid the real champions in divisions and compete for vacant titles. Manny only wants to fight guys who have just lost and claims that its because "the fans want to see him fight losers instead of champions". This claim that Manny agreed to everything is about as valid as the article "I injected Manny Pacquiao with steroids". You do not need every major news outlet from every major cities around the world to be reporting on it like the ESPN.com or Wall Street Journal, or even the NY Times, when you have the person being interviewed is caught on video saying it as it is through his own mouth, not even Larry King can dispute that... Manny already agreed to OSDT, listen to him at the 2:15 mark, this interview was done before the Margarito fight... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmqeBye3KhA

It was to Marley that Pacquiao supposedly stated that he would agree to all of Mayweather's demands, but its that same writer and Pacquiao insider that gives his take about Arum and Pacquiao. This sheds quite a bit of light on the history of Pacquiao's so-called "meeting of Mayweather's demands" : Michael Marley: A Pacquiao Insider Exposes Bob Arum? Defending Bob Arum is quite hard for a number of reasons. He's a famous liar, well-known to veteran fans as a promoter that tends to totally exaggerate negotiations to ensure that he comes out looking holier than thou. Team Mayweather wasn't even the first to make these claims. It's been coming out of his own camp. Michael Marley, the day after Arum's infamous "teleconference," came right out and said it. This was days before Leonard Ellerbe spoke. Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum's, was just as perplexed by Arum's deadline. He didn't get it; he couldn't work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging. He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke. Negotiation just hadn't been happening. They'd started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley. Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in. That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals. Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks "blowing smoke to the media," to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal. When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010. Why did the talks fail? According to Marley, contrary to most reports, Pacquiao was unwilling to move an inch on drug testing. And Mayweather was unwilling to move an inch on money. Pretty predictable. As another example of the way Arum operates, it also turns out that "Pacquiao accepting 14 days" was just more "smoke" as part of the Arum charade. The original quote from Pacquiao was 100 percent fake. Arum has admitted as much. The second quote from Pacquiao was real, but for PR purposes. Pacquiao's manager denied it was accurate, when quizzed soon after. To confirm the charade, only days ago, Arum was asked straight up, what drug terms Pacquiao had agreed to and he was unable to give an answer. This is a man who had an agreement with Mayweather's people? He couldn't even answer what the supposed drug agreement was? So what actually happened? According to Marley, Arum made these claims days before anyone from team Mayweather spoke out. Well, Arum has allegedly been fixing a Pacquiao vs. Margarito bout in the Middle East for months. But he knew full well that he couldn't make the fight without being seen to be trying to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao first. Plus, HBO, after pressure from Golden Boy, flat out told him that he'd have to approach Mayweather first, or they would not work on a Margarito fight. Arum, according to Marley, approached Greenburg with his terms for the fight. Terms, Marley suspects, that were never going to be accepted. Terms, that in regards to drug testing, were even worse than the last fight. That's basically it. Golden Boy felt Arum was not being serious, and had no intention of negotiating further. Arum played the media, and proclaimed that he was "waiting for Floyd to accept his offer." Which, I guess, was technically true. The big lie came with Arum's claims that these terms had been negotiated and accepted. Marley claims that this is just 100 percent false. There were no real talks. No deals. No agreements. No contracts. In a strange way, neither side is technically lying. Most likely, after taking legal advice, they've worded it all very carefully. Arum claimed that he was waiting for Mayweather to agree to his offer, and had been dealing with Greenberg. The problem being, his dealings with Greenberg amounted to one conversation in which he sent him an awful offer, knowing full well it wouldn't work. No negotiations, talks, or discussions whatsoever. Arum's offer. Countdown clock. Lots of BS about "terms being agreed by both sides." Mayweather's people are technically speaking the truth as well. There were never any negotiations, talks, agreements, deals. Just Arum blowing smoke to the press. Why did Arum exaggerate his efforts so much? Because he wanted to set up Margarito vs. Pacquiao and couldn't justify it without trying to pin the blame on someone else. Golden Boy? Well Marley claims that there quite literally was a gag order. It's just the fact that the negotiations ended after about two days. You can tell when the fight fell through. Arum started talking to the media twice a day! Marley claims that Golden Boy's position with Arum is to just let him talk, and not justify his claims with replies, safe in the knowledge that most of the sport world knows he talks out of his behind. Arum could well find himself in a tough position, however. Dan Raphael reported that Ellerbe is not only one of the most honest guys in boxing, he's also been speaking to Greenberg regularly for weeks. These daily conversations have reportedly gone on after his claim that basically either Greenberg or Arum is a stone cold liar. Which suggests to most that Greenberg agrees with his pronouncement. Again, Marley is a Top Rank guy, and a noted Pacquiao backer. He reported that Arum's claims of "negotiations" and "agreements" were phony, days before any Mayweather person made any comment. Mayweather's guy's wording is probably a bit controversial, and not 100 percent true, but both Marley and Ellebre are basically singing from the same hymn sheet. Arum completely and utterly exaggerated all claims of "agreements," "deals," "contracts," and "negotiations." Promoter: Pacquiao is "all in," waiting to hear from Mayweather July 6, 2010 Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, said Tuesday that the Filipino fighter has made a significant concession on a pre-fight drug screening plan with Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s camp, adding Pacquiao is "all in. He's agreed to what they're demanding." Arum said, "We're saying the same thing, that if there's information that emerges in the final 14 days, we can go to the commission and ask for more tests. We can work it out. No one's looking to pull any fast ones." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...ayweather.html -------------------------------------------------------- 99.9% of everything Arum says has a spin to it. Bob has never made a serious contracted offer to Haymon for full OST.

Wrong. The right test just has not been administered yet. Pacquiao isn't doing himself any favors by avoiding and dodging these tests. He was always quick to pee in a cup but once they starting talking about checking for PEDs randomly up until the day of the fight Pacquiao flat out refused FOR YEARS TO TAKE THAT TEST!!! Are you kidding me? And now the best that you've got is to pretend that Pacquiao stated that he's up for anything? Do all pactards lie to themselves? Or just the select few I happen to be debating with? Jeez. links that say pac is agreeing to take the tests are all over the place homie. man how many times to we have to repeat this with these clowns. pac fans has nothing to defend pac for. pac is already agreeing to the tests. all floyd has to do is pick up the phone and start the negotiations. what a bunch of clowns these idiots are. :haha:

Floyd is taking a page out of propaganda 101---keep repeating the lie, and if you do it often enough, people will start to believe it.

Post reputable proof of Pacquiao himself stating that he is no longer seeking a cutoff date in his negotiations with Floyd Mayweather Jr concerning random USADA testing. You won't because that evidence doesn't exist, but you mongos don't ever stop, even when the facts and evidence are motorboating you in the face like a pair of big ole titties. Its called "desperation & denial". the evidence that pac is using peds doesn't exist, but you seem to have no problem with it, eh? :haha:

Floyd Jr is really ducking Pacman, no doubt about it.

Lets sit and wait till this lawsuit end and well see who will be found guilty. No evidence on Pac and theres sh!tloads against floyd. I wonder who is the betting favorite on this one? exactly funny how even p[ac saying he has agreed to it still leads guys like larry to post stuff from other people we have the words from the man himself, the answer is that he has agreed floyd stop ducking

Lets sit and wait till this lawsuit end and well see who will be found guilty. No evidence on Pac and theres sh!tloads against floyd. I wonder who is the betting favorite on this one? lawsuits mean nothing..oj got away with murder..but lost the civil lawsuit..lol

Lets sit and wait till this lawsuit end and well see who will be found guilty. No evidence on Pac and theres sh!tloads against floyd. I wonder who is the betting favorite on this one?

from pacs mouth that he has agreed to it, so flomos can do what they want now, time for floyd to stop ducking

from pacs mouth that he has agreed to it, so flomos can do what they want now, time for floyd to stop ducking

pacquiao was not part of the negotiation , guy can barely speak english . but he got koncz and freddy roach for that, and both rejected OST , watch the video arum is a snake, why believe him ? Pac has the final say, roach and arum are just stirring things up. Floyd lied/deny about the negociation took place didnt he? but Greenburg came out to confirmed what arum has said, so WHY still believe in floydie?

why prefer to believe roach over pac? that wouldn't make any sense would it? why not just tell floyd to pick up the phone and start the negotiation? is there a harm in that? al haymon can do it for him. pacquiao was not part of the negotiation , guy can barely speak english . but he got koncz and freddy roach for that, and both rejected OST , watch the video arum is a snake, why believe him ?

freddy roach is on record saying they didn't agree http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQlayWS7TNE&feature=channel_video_title why prefer to believe roach over pac? that wouldn't make any sense would it? why not just tell floyd to pick up the phone and start the negotiation? is there a harm in that? al haymon can do it for him.

warms up with bums beating them 12 round UD, knowing he'll win easy and take another vacation...yeah thats about right.

freddy roach is on record saying they didn't agree http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQlayWS7TNE&feature=channel_video_title