Pacquiao ain't fighting Chino next. Although Chino did loose his last fight it was to Floyd and his stock is rising. That's not how Pacquiao does things. Marquez just proved he's still not old enough to let Pacquiao beat him convincingly so they will offer Marquez the fight. But only at a discount because they don't really want the fight. So they will low ball Marquez hoping he turns it down. So they can go after the guy they really want. You guess it. Alvarado is the guy Pacquiao will fight next. Too beat up. Too shop worn. Too perfect. You heard it hear first Pacquiao vs Alvarado next.
lolz this is just funny, you really referring to PAC who already fought 4 fights and 42 rounds with Marquez?
Ya 40 rounds and still got put to sleep. If you noticed every rematch had like a four year window hoping Marquez would be past it. But he wasn't. But this is about Pacquiao vs Alvarado. He's shot worn coming of his loss. That's always been the type of fighter Pacquiao goes after.
Canelo has fought Larry Mosley, Shane Mosley and now sparring Mosley jr.
The kids still an amatuer but apparently he gave Canelo good enough work for him to send one of his other sparring partners home. But Shane Mosley Jr is 6' 165lbs. Im not sure how this helps Canelo.
Me over react= NEVER!!! I hate fighters that loose fights and talk sh1t. JLeon was there for the taking and he didn't take it. Then he cries about it afterwards like there's some conspiracy to keep him down. Who the fvck is he?
LMAO U wild man.
I dont think either fight is for the lineal title
You can't win the lineal title at a catchweight, thats a disgrace to lineal titles
And Pacquiao is the last true lineal champ at 140 when he beat Hatton and as far as I'm concerned, he still is.
That was like 4 years ago. Damn I was still living in Humblot County at the time lol.
But Pacquiao fought him 4 times without asking for testing, so shouldn't it be a duck when he presents in the 5th time around....
Jokes aside Marquez is taking superior testing against Bradley.
No drug test on earth is going to protect Manny from that shot he took in the 6th. And that's against a guy he'd already fought 3 times. You cant make that kind of mistake ever. Pac is done.
I know this is old news but just thought I'd post it. They talk about it during the first segment @ around the 5:45 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcHO0EjAu8
Ya this is old. I saw this on another website about a month ago. It's funny as sh1t but old.
I don't think there is enough time for Lucas to reach ATG status. He's already 30 years old. It's possible for the HOF if he can go on a run. But it all depends on you consider good enough for the HOF.
He's already beaten Peterson so he will be the best JWW if he beats Garcia. Is that enough or does he need a couple more title defenses? I say yes it's enough because who else is out there of note at JWW? Once he moves up does he need to beat Floyd or are wins over Alexander and Broner good enough to be considered a great WW? Technically he would be a unified champion WBA/IBF. I cant see him competing at JMW. So is a two division champion good enough for the HOF? I say no but that's just my opinion.
Only a braindead flowmo would call this a BUSINESS move. I get sick of hearing Floyds fanboys justifying every stupid move he makes, this is not a business move this is a BUSINESS ENDER.
These Flowmos have no clue about business, you give an offer like that on the table you are basically telling the opposing party F you, just like the 40 million flat fee and no ppv revenue, you are killing the deal without flat out saying it.
50 cent already exposed Floyd, yet these clowns are saying 50 cent is a hater and jealous, no the truth is 50 cent saw that Floyd can't do anything without al haymon and wanted Floyd to start his own promotional company like how Golden boy did so Floyd could really make ends after he retires, right now he doesn't even have a promotional company he is promote by golden boy mayweather promotions is not even a legit company promotion Mayweahter never got a license like 50 cent did, problem is Floyd is not an independent person he is scared because he doesn't have any business savvy he doesn't have the balls to go into something without hundred percent certainty he will succeed its why he carefully picks his foes, only thing Floyd takes a chance on his gambling.
When asked about Manny Pacquiao:
"My health is more important, Im a rich scared coward" - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
In 2009 Floyd offered Manny a 50/50 split and they turned it down. And chose to fight Clottey instead. All this is documented and cant be argued. When a man does that there is no way to convince me they wanted the fight. It has nothing to do with being a Pact@rd or a Flo-mo. Its basic common sense.
after what was said, if you flo mos (which i am) think he truly wants the fight, u need to find the nearest bridge and jump off. stab yourself in the neck with a butter knife before you hit the ground.
He doesnt want the fight now. Hes said as much. Doesnt mean he never wanted it before. There is a hundred reasons why this fight couldnt happen. And Manny being signed to Mayweather Promotions is probably the 100th reason. The main reason is Arum owns Pacquiaos ass.
They didn't turn it down, he needed a fight done asap to concentrate on his first congressional campaign, and the Floyd negotiations were dragging out. Pac was free and ready to go by June, agreed to 7 day cutoff. Floyd never denied, cause he was nowhere to be found lol. Ross Greenburg had him tracked down briefly
They did turn it down. Manny never agreed to a 7 day cutoff he turned down a 14 day cutoff. Save your breathe your not changing my opinion. I remember clearly how the whole thing went down.
That would be a good example if it was true.
It didnt take Danny half a round.
It took Danny 3 rounds to find Khan.
Khan landed on him at will for 3 rounds.
Up until then he was giving Danny a beating.
Had Matthysse landed on him as much, he would have killed Danny, literally speaking.
Last I checked it's a fight and fighters are gonna land punches. LM is Mayorga with a little bit more control. That's about it.
We watch the fight in hopes something exciting will happen that involves Floyd, but time and time again we're given nothing but UD's caused by pot shotting, back peddeling and a blatant unwillingness to take risks that create new chapters in history.
Just because people watch his fights don't confuse them with being entertaining, we hope they are going to be entertaining, but they never provide the goods.
Mayweather puts on a big show outside of the ring because he doesn't put on a big show inside the ring, and he knows that.
You watch and hope? Your a fvcking idiot then. Like you hope your wife isn't fvcking the mailman.
Even if Matthysse did leave Golden Boy he still is signed with Haymon. And no way he ditches Haymon after landing the biggest fight of his career. Nobodies that ungrateful.
No, but a lot of Mayweather fans feel obligated to hate on Pac, which I think is ignorant since I like both
That goes both ways. In fact probably more one way than the other. Thread after thread about Floyd on sites like this one. Hardly anybody talks about Manny anymore including his fans. They hate Floyd more than they love Manny. Look at trolls like Pac-Boy and Junior Gong. 40+ thousand posts and there not the I love Manny kind either. I will never understand how 1 person can waist so much time and energy on someone they supposedly hate. Ive been around this site for years and it's mostly people that hate Floyd bringing him up not the other way around.
... It appears that you missed my point. Floyd did do that on several occasions, as I pointed out. If Floyd fought Manny he would be making much much more than fighting anyone that he has ever fought. No doubts.
So Floyd had the chance to do a job for $100 million yet said no and fought for less than half that against an opponent that would NOT do much for his resume. So Floyd took less money to fight someone less risky!
Floyd offered Manny the fight 2x what else do does he need to do? And one of those offers was a 50/50 split. Manny pulled out and fought Clottey instead. Have you ever seen any other fighter out there get offered a 50/50 split from Floyd Mayweather? And you say Floyd didnt want the fight. Where do you get your balls?
For Floyd, Manny would have made him more than double any other fighter. So that logic is flawed Therefore, people see Floyd as a fighter who is OK with ducking a fighter. Same with Margarito. He was going to make his biggest pay to date back then. Floyd said no to that money.
How is it flawed. In the same situation you and I would do the same thing. You work at a job and make 20 dollars an hour. You wouldnt quit and go do the same job for 10 or even 15 dollars an hour would you? You absolutely wouldnt. Its Floyds job to make the biggest fight possible and thats what he tries to do. Yet you exspect Floyd to do so. Just because you think a certain fighter poses a threat to Floyd doesnt mean hes ducking said fighter.
Its a smear campaign against people they dont like. You see it in everything these days. College football message boards are the worst but its in politics and boxing as well. SEC fans are worse than ******* Nation 3 yrs ago and thats hard to do. So ducking is a way to discredit boxers they dont like.
Floyd was never interested in the fight so he went the PEDs route excuse. He never did that with Oscar who was said to take PEDs.
Floyd said prior to negotiations #1 that he would NEVER accept a 50/50 deal ...NEVER ..... so once Manny accepted testing, Floyd went the "I WANT ALL PPV" excuse. Just like he said he would do months BEFORE, prior to the 2009 negotiations. Its all there on video. It just took more time because his PEDs excuse was working well for him.
But that is besides the point. The TS said, its all about business and if the fighter takes on another fighter instead due to making more money then you can't say its a duck. I gave a few examples where Floyd would get more money. Then I clarified that for you. Now you are changing the subject. No problem .... but Floyd took the lesser risks for even less money! FACT!!!
Finally, Floyd is his own boss, he says. Also, everyone wants to fight him. Why couldn't he fight all those fighters that he ducked? OK, if he didn't fight one opponent but he didn't fight Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Manny, Williams, Martinez .... not all are Arum fighters but even then, so what! Manny fought Oscar who is the man at GB. It can happen! Martinez fought Chavez Jr! It can happen!
You use the term money fights and then you say Margarito and Williams lol? Wheres the money in those fights? Cottos team wanted nothing to do with Floyd at 140 and Mosley and Floyd never campaigned at the same weight until late in their carreers. Mosley skipped 140 entirely and before Floyd retired Mosley was fighting at 154. His first fight back at WW was Cotto in 2008 when Floyd was retired. Once Floyd came back he fought Marquez than Mosley. Once Mosley moved up to fight Oscar that ruined any chance of a prime Floyd Mosley fight.
They have to believe it, otherwise it means their national hero pulled out of the fight of the century because he was scared he wouldn't test clean.
Like I said before its a smear campaign used to discredit fighters they dont like. And I love the whole Manny said hed take less money arguement. Like im suspoded to believe Manny will fight Floyd for less money than what was offered before with stronger drug testing. Some of yall believe that bull**** but everybodies not dumb.
I picked Canelo because of his physical attributes. Manny can't win being a one minute per round fighter, plus his cramping late in fights. Serg just had knee ligament surgery, and he depends on his legs. Guerreros not strong enough to stop Floyd.