The pac fight is there win or loose with Bradley and I am not sure how much he'll get for this one but the pac fight will be good $$$$'s win or loose with Bradley so if he fought Pac first and looses then his next fight won't be worth as much I think his best bet would be Bradley if he looses then pac If he wins fight someone else and continue untill he looses then take the $$$'s from a pac fight people will pay for that one 5 years from now it is easily promoted his stock with regards to another fight will not get higher with any outcome of a pac fight can only go down or at best stay the same so take the other fights while your stock is up
Avoiding? Of course not. Manny had the leverage in the previous fights when it came to money split and revenue so who are we to blame Marquez for more than likely wanting to do the same?
I also don't recall immediate rematches after any of their first four encounters. In fact, from the 1st and 2nd fight there was almost an entire 4 year lapse before JMM got his rematch. Then came a wait of over 3 and a half years for the 3rd fight to happen. Over a year later, the 4th fight came about. Manny was in no hurry to "give" JMM any sort of rematch. At least not in the way that Manny's fans seem so eager to see happen now.
But JMM avoiding Manny? Laughable.
why do people say manny was slightly ahead like it matter at the end
after the 1st and 2nd fight pac fans didnt want to hear anything about the fact that Marquez won more rounds
all they said was pac dropped Marquez 4 times and thats all that matters
and know that Marquez knocked pac the F out all of sudden
pac won more rounds:dance:
Im not one of those people.... I think jmm deserved his rematches just like how i think manny deserves at least one chance at redemption..
like i said before,, if this was a beatdown and ko then i dont want to see a rematch, just like how i didnt want to see a vasquez-marquez 5,,,,
But jmm-manny 4 was super exciting and a great fight,,, so i want to see part 5,,,, If jmm does it again, great,, if manny wins close, great, then lets do #6....
as long as the fights are great and competitive, and both guys are operating on a high level, then i see no reason not to have #5
unless jmm doesnt want to risk it,, which kinda seems like a dodge to me to be honest,,, even though its by far jmm's biggest payday out there
...............sure seems that way..........and all that money compared to fighting Timmy? I can't believe he takes the Bradley fight instead of the Money Fight! Makes no sense, unless that round before he took Pac out told him somethng about Pacs punches!!!!! .........I'd still take the money fight
thats why its called prize fighting and at the end I want the BIGGEST Prize!
Ray
He is losing the rivalry
1-2-1
One win ties the series.
Seems like he is clearly ducking a competitive fight
he is not avoiding him
Marquez is done with pac
yes jmm ko'd manny, but it still was pretty much a toss-up or manny slightly ahead before the ko....
why do people say manny was slightly ahead like it matter at the end
after the 1st and 2nd fight pac fans didnt want to hear anything about the fact that Marquez won more rounds
all they said was pac dropped Marquez 4 times and thats all that matters
and know that Marquez knocked pac the F out all of sudden
pac won more rounds:dance:
you mean after the second fight? because pac wanted an immediate rematch after the first fight (a fight which pac should have won if it wasn't for that one incompetent judge), but marquez and his team were asking for too much money..and it's funny that marquez ended up fighting in indonesia for peanuts against chris john only to lose lol....and pac rematched marquez a year after the 3rd fight...
but yes pac did make marquez wait after the 2nd fight..only because pac's career skyrocketed after he beat oscar...so can't blame pac for chasing the bigger fights at the higher weightclasses..
why do people keep repeating this lie
pac didnt want an immediate rematch and then Marquez fought chris john
Marquez didnt fight chris john damn near two years after the 1st Marquez vs pac fight
Marquez very next fight with after he beat pac in the first fight was on the undercard of the hopkins vs de la hoya fight not a peanut type of event
and i say he beat pac in the first fight because judge clemente errors did not end in the 1st after not scoring it correctly 10-6 for pac but he went to score another round incorrectly
Like round 4 he scored it for pac when it was a clear Marquez 10-9 round
then you have judge stewart who gave pac many undeserving rounds that belong to Marquez
watch round 11 dont know how anyone can score that anything but a 10 for Marquez and 9 for pac
oh by the way if anyone thinks chris john beat Marquez then i guess it makes since that you would believe pac beat Marquez in the 3rd fight
He is losing the rivalry
1-2-1
One win ties the series.
Seems like he is clearly ducking a competitive fight
How can he be avoiding a guy he fought 4 times already?
If someone has to ask this question about Marquez after 4 thrilling fights, that person will never see the truth. The question you really should be asking is Why would Marquez have to avoid him?
What kinda drug does somebody have to take to think you can duck somebody you fought four times and knocked out cold in your last fight? Is it meth?
Good point, but jmm-manny is the exception to that thinking,,,
all there fights were extremely close with no clear cut winner,, and #4 was their most exciting fight, and it wasnt a blowout,, yes jmm ko'd manny, but it still was pretty much a toss-up or manny slightly ahead before the ko....
like i said earlier,, it wasnt like vasquez-marquez 4 when it was a total blowout,,, all the manny-jmm fights have been razor close, and #5 is still the biggest fight for each, outside of a manny-floyd fight,,,
If both win their next bouts,, #5 is the biggest fight to make
Yes if he doesnt give manny a rematch if manny beats rios...
manny gave him 3 rematches, and the fourth fight was the most exciting and a 5th fight would be jmm's biggest payday out there,,,
This isnt like vasquez-Marquez 4, where vasquez was totally done and got blow out,,, manny and pac still perform at a high level,,, a 5th fight is logical
Marquez wants Alvarado though, big Broncos fan.
Yes if he doesnt give manny a rematch if manny beats rios...
manny gave him 3 rematches, and the fourth fight was the most exciting and a 5th fight would be jmm's biggest payday out there,,,
This isnt like vasquez-Marquez 4, where vasquez was totally done and got blow out,,, manny and pac still perform at a high level,,, a 5th fight is logical
Who in their right mind thinks Pacquiao is EVER an easy fight for Marquez!!??? Did Marquez say that?
Also, Marquez might have been offered a career payday, but I think we know parity is more important at this stage. Would you really take millions less than someone you knocked out, to fight them again? Especially if they've never beaten you convincingly.
Fair enough. If Pac beats Rios, I hope they offer him an even better deal.
I agree they should have offered him more. But they did offer him 2x his career best, for a presumably easy fight for him.
It's nothing like Floyd's pathetic 40m offer for Pac to split with TR. They split at least that much for either JMM 3 or 4, and those were barely anticipated, much less the biggest grossing fight of all time.
Who in their right mind thinks Pacquiao is EVER an easy fight for Marquez!!??? Did Marquez say that?
Also, Marquez might have been offered a career payday, but I think we know parity is more important at this stage. Would you really take millions less than someone you knocked out, to fight them again? Especially if they've never beaten you convincingly.
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