Not sure if williams deserved it,,, he was on a tear going between 147,154, 160 but he really only had the margarito win, and a disputed win over serg..
I can see paul making the list, but not top 5
at that time he did and he was. remember he was Sergio's ticket to the p4p list also, from the first fight not the second if I remember correctly
lmao at williams and shane in top 5.... also calderon and john shouldn't be on the list..
Williams deserved it, shane definitely did not after years removed from the list, not even after the margo fight let alone top 5. calderon was in the top 10 for a long time too, he should've been removed after the mayol fight tho but they removed him after the segura fight,, and put segura in which imo was undeserved.
The fight was at junior bantam, Concepcion failed to even make bantam. By contrast, Mares is smallish at 122.
yes, he was 5 lbs over the weight limit in the offical weigh in if i remeber correctly but i dont think it was the whole reason he survived.. i think it was the fact that he was able to absorb all of nonitos punches that really affected nonito's showing...
That average fighter had 300 amateur fights, is huge at the weight and defeated the likes of Gary Russell Jr in the Ams.
He is vastly experienced and very heavy handed.
He got dropped and lost every single round but one, two at the very most. He got dominated!
Lennox Lewis was often open for the left hook, David Tua had one of the best ever, we all know that one went.
who cares about amatuer fights ..he's in the pros now ..carlos pinto and abdulaev beat cotto in the ams ..did it matter in the pros?..
Tough fight for Donaire if Mares can take his punches and swarm like last time out.....
thats what im sayin thats a big if but it's possible ..and rember the SD nonito win over WV2? ..we know it was BS so that tells me mares only have make it to the final bell and make it a pretty close fight for him to win..
Yes I did as well as another blown up fighter. He has never looked that good above 115. Apart from a win over Hasagawa, he has done zilch above 115.
but above 115 was he ever in the top 10 p4p list ..
Funny thing is since Floyd said anything bout Manny being on steriods he has 0 ko's since 2009
you complain too much when people bring floyd up in a non floyd thread and now youre doing same sh1t.. hush man hush!
when tsu got stopped by hatton , floyd prolly was happy
when cotto got stopped by margs, floyd prolly was happy
when margs lost to shane, floyd was happy
when pac got ktfo by jmm, floyd was happy
lots of great fights that did'nt happen and we see the pattern
I don't even know what to say, you're like Margarito...just hanging in there and taking a beating.
Your expert opinion of being in sports medicine for 9 years, which you mentioned at no point in any of your posts on this board, until Pac got KTFO in hilariously devastating fashion.
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lol, people can read man and theboxingbanger is the one taking you guys to school, it's crazy. all you guys have nothing but insult but he keeps owning you guys with knowledge..seeing him debate with you all is like a bully taking candy from a baby.
It became pretty obvious he is just trolling a couple posts ago...nobody legit would have stuck around this long...I guess I'm just bored enough that I am still replying. :lol1:
dont act like you won mofo, people can read.. you aint bored , youre owned. you aint got sh1t on theboxingbanger , youre like throwing a grape at a tank seeing you debate with him ,lol..
"th-they all beating e-eachother. bu-but they c-cant beat me"
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some fans might say "floyd called them out , it was'nt his fault"..but there are just way to many fights that did'nt happen and some are way too late for anyone to justify floyd's duckings...you just cant blame all of em
i think khan is worthy of a rematch .atleast more so than erik was..
i also think it's a winnable fight for khan if he's disciplined enough to not get caught in a brawl ..basiclly , he needs to not throw combinations , 1-2 at most and get out but minimize it..one sh0t at a time then get out.... garcia is a very basic counter puncher imo
Will you believe your lying eyes? This not rocket science. A test confirmation is only needed to go legal. Any trained eye can see roids at work.
oh i do believe it but like i said i dont have proof altho there are circumstancial evidences.and memo is one shdy mofo, was'nt surprised jmm passed the test and will in the future no matter what unless VADA is involved
Unfortunately, the tests will come back negative even with VADA. Probably
The way JMMs PEDs work they basically expand his red blood cells. That, in and of itself, will never show on any test. This the work of revolutionary drug called epo. The thing about epo is its extreme effective, doesn't last long in the blood and is easily flushable from the lymphatic system in about 2 days if you have to.
Even after epo gets flushed to pass dope tests ..... all the extra red blood cells still remain in the body. EPO has become the holy grail in PEDs. Its not expensive either
Think of it like this. A V6 motor having 300 hp. Put a supercharger(EPO) on the vehicle and get 400hp ........ car still has the same V6 motor though.
The extra artifical red blood cells will stay in the body for about 60 days until the body begins to naturally regulate itself.
EPO is only a base normally. Meaning that you stack it with multiple other drugs. The problem with the 'other drugs' is that the tests for doping agents come back negative because they can't find anything. They can't find anything because industry pros' have started using enzyme therapy instead of masking agents. Enzyme therapy works like this- identify the strongest part of the compound being tested for, then take the corresponding anti enzyme to the compound and add it to the body in the appropriate ratios. The enzyme will then change the chemical compound of the drug making the test inaccurate and unstable, thus giving the negative result ... you have now created adesigner drug that is untraceable.
Times have changed. So has science. Bad guys have equal access to the science though. That's the problem
hush guys , school's in session ..just listen, lol
Manfredy was coming off beating Gatti (at a time Gatti was highly regarded) and was the highest ranked fighter at 130 other than Floyd when that happened......who had Vazquez, Sydorenko, and Arce beat before they fought Donaire???
gatti was a warrior but he was never elite...vasquez was ranked , and the only reason arce was'nt ranked was coz he moved back to bw..
I'm really going to have to disagree with you there. I reduced a lying deluded fanboy into babbling about a fictitious job he got with his fictitious degree he spent nine years earning at the Iligan City Institute for the Mentally Pactarded.
ofcourse you will.. youre like vic darchinyan , you already got KTFO and stilll says he was'nt hurt, lol
you got taken to school, every single one of you who took a shot at theboxing banger
Vazquez, Narvaez, Sydorenko, and Arce didn't really mean s**t to me.
Vazquez never beat a top 10 fighter, Narvaez was clearly fighting in a weight class he didn't belong in, Sydorenko wasn't a good fight by the time Donaire got to him, and Arce hadn't done anything since beating the unproven Vazquez over 18 months prior, and was also a tiny guy for the weight class.
Donaire has wins over Darchinyan, Mthalane, H. Marquez, Montiel, Mathebula, and Nishioka.
yet you listed angel manfreddy as one of floyd's good wins.. a guy who was never a champion and awas a glorified contender.