Wh Marquez will not be competitive against Pacman.

Pacquiao really f***ed up here.

I think we all thought that last year really didn't think Marquez had it in him to beat Pacquiao twice in 12 months

They're all valid points that ended up being proven wrong.

Well TBF everybody thought this. It was a cherrypick on Pacquiao's part.

poster of the year my ass, lol

yep..............

I just dont get how Floiyd was given so much **** for fighting JMM at 144 and yet no one really gives pac sh it for doing the same thing if pac really wanted to challenge himself he would have fought him at a CW of 137 or 138 but he will only CW when its to his advantage pac is full of it Floyd is full of it Not me, I believe that both Pacman & Floyd should be ashamed of themselves for fighting Maequez at welterweight. They are supposed to be the 2 best fighters in the sport. While those 2 are beating old men, or smaller guys, my bwoy B-Hop was being a daddy to his son Pascal. Doing what great fighters are supposed to do & that's proving it inside the squared circle.

cause pac isn't a one-trick pony anymore He wasn't a one trick pony when he beat the sh*t out of Barrera either. He hasn't been a one trick pony for a very long time.

The thread starter puts way too much emphasis on physical ability. He did this in the Mayweather-Ortiz thread. First of all, if you look at their stats Marquez is slightly taller than Pacquiao. He's equal in reach and has greater boxing IQ. Pacquiao is a freak athlete with tremendous athletic ability but his boxing still has some holes in it. Pacquiao hasn't fought a good counter puncher since Marquez. Instead he's been fighting big, slow, come forward fighters with little to no head movement. He's shown he still has trouble cutting off the ring in Mosley fight. I expect Pacquiao to twin this fight off of sheer athletic ability alone. But I believe Marquez will surprise all of us at how competitive he will be with Pac. I expect Marquez to be more competitive with Pac than I expect Ortiz to be with Mayweather.

I just dont get how Floiyd was given so much **** for fighting JMM at 144 and yet no one really gives pac sh it for doing the same thing if pac really wanted to challenge himself he would have fought him at a CW of 137 or 138 but he will only CW when its to his advantage pac is full of it Floyd is full of it

This is why Pacquiao is a B*tch to me.. I mean he won the following titles: 135lb title. NEVER DEFENDED IT 140lb title. NEVER DEFENDED IT 154lb title. NEVER DEFENDED IT What type of sh!t is that?...and what's the purpose?.. Both Pacquiao and his CAMP knows that it would have been HELL fighting Marquez at 140lbs..they always cry and say he's such a small WW but when a smaller man comes they're comfortable at the higher weights all of a sudden. 140lbs would have made this fight another CLASSIC and Marquez would be on an even playing field as far as size goes. Too much to ask for from Team Pacquiao.

Ok, so he's almost 40 & traveling up 2 weightclasses where his previous visit was less than joyful. Tell me why will he get murked this time then. If it's not size, or age. Why will he get murked this time? cause pac isn't a one-trick pony anymore

1. The fight is at welterweight. 2. Marquez has been dropped by Katsidis & hurt by Diaz. 3. He's almost 40 4. Pacman has grown into welterweight. Marquez has not. Feel free to add to these facts. Don't be shy, we know Marquez gets wolfed, just admit the $hit. that is the only reason Pac is fighting him again

1) jmm should've fought his tune up at 144 lbs 2) yes, but he always gets up 3) but looks like he's 30 4) pac is a small WW jmm should get murked, but it won't be because pac has a "size" advantage. besides, jmm has the piss advantage Ok, so he's almost 40 & traveling up 2 weightclasses where his previous visit was less than joyful. Tell me why will he get murked this time then. If it's not size, or age. Why will he get murked this time?

the biggest issue i see is the size difference. yes pac has developed more as a fighter since the last JMM fight but so has JMM. i would have liked this fight to be at 140

1. The fight is at welterweight. 2. Marquez has been dropped by Katsidis & hurt by Diaz. 3. He's almost 40 4. Pacman has grown into welterweight. Marquez has not. Feel free to add to these facts. Don't be shy, we know Marquez gets wolfed, just admit the $hit. 1) jmm should've fought his tune up at 144 lbs 2) yes, but he always gets up 3) but looks like he's 30 4) pac is a small WW jmm should get murked, but it won't be because pac has a "size" advantage. besides, jmm has the piss advantage

We've had an Ortiz-Mayweather thread. Now a Pacquaio-Marquez thread. Now can we get a Martinez-Barker thread and explain how that is possibly the biggest Cherry pick by a Top 3 P4P fighter possibly in the History of official P4P rankings?

1. The fight is at welterweight. 2. Marquez has been dropped by Katsidis & hurt by Diaz. 3. He's almost 40 4. Pacman has grown into welterweight. Marquez has not. Feel free to add to these facts. Don't be shy, we know Marquez gets wolfed, just admit the $hit. Marquez has been dropped by Pac as well. Many times. Who hasn't dropped Marquez.

this is easy work