Forget resumes. These two step in the ring, what has made 90% of you so confident this guy beats Rigondeaux?
Bare in mind, Rigondeaux is small but he is no 108, 112, or 115 lb fighter.
What do Arce, Darchinyan, Vasquez Jr, H. Marquez, Montiel, Martinez etc etc all have in common? If you answered they are all wreckless & come forward with their face first, you are correct. Its a bit like Manny Pacquaio really - You stand infront of him, he'll kill you. You show him movement, he is clueless and will follow you around getting frustrated & making mistakes.
This is Uncle Bobs matchmaking at its finest.
Concepcion (at times), Harutyunyan (at times) & Mathebula boxed off the backfoot - Everyone who has boxed off the backfoot has gave Donaire fits.
There is not a fighter alive that can box as well off the backfoot as Rigondeaux. He can hit you to head or body with either hand off the backfoot and knock you out. He is stylistic nightmare for Donaire.
Rigondeaux has seen it all, Donaire has never seen anybody with that footspeed, handspeed, lateral movement, precision pin-point counter punching.
Well it'd be the other way around, you should be asking, how can Donaire defend against Rigondeaux? Donaire is the no.1 at the division right now.
I don't agree though. Respect for your opinion and all, but i've seen nothing in Rigondeaux showing he could beat a beast like Donaire.
That's why you never ranked a fighter no.1 unless he fights an elite competition. Even before the Rigondeaux fight he looked like crap against mediocre oppositions. Every time donaire stepped up he losses a fight. He is a -B fighter good at besting C Level Oppositions.
LOL playing the counter game with Donaire is playing with fire. He has amazing speed, great accuracy and insane one punch KO power. If anything it's guys that can get inside and try to bully him around that have a better chance at beating him. Concepcion had success because he was so much bigger than donaire when they fought.
Rigo's chin + Donaire's speed, power and accuracy = highlight reel KO. No way Rigo avoids nonito's punches thru 12 rounds.
Nonito made a career beating bums, smaller, and past his prime boxers. He never improved his skills once he moved up to higher divisions.. Magdaleno, Rigondeaux, and Walters exposed him as a boxer who relied on his left hook. Oscar Valdez KO's him if they fight this year.
Rigo has alot of experience boxing styles from tech. boxers to come forward punchers because amatuer boxing styles have incorperated a wider variety of styles in recent years. He's smart and he's a counter mover/counter puncher and won't throw multi-combination if he's in with a guy thats stronger.
BUT.............the main reason for his success against Donaire is the southpaw vs conventional fighter!!
Donaire came in out of condition and thats 100% on him, he got out boxed 95% of their bout. Things can change if first gets in condition and then pressures Rigo the right ways! It won't be easy because he needs to bring the fight to Rigo but thats hows its done. Rigo on his back leg without pressure is a comfortable fighter but if his jab is sent back to him and the right hands thrown are NOT at the head he will need to adjust. Pressure fighter against counter boxer can be a great fight but it is on the pressure guy to make the fight, not easy because your not just using all your energy and strength your puting yourself in harms way FIRST! Its always dangerous to committ if it doesn't work you have no where to go.
I do believe Donaire has the tools to give Rigo a very tuff fight but I'm not sure he has the mentality! Rigo will step up to his competitions level but again I don't know if Donaire can. Hopefully we see a rematch because I still think that physically they set up nicely! Ray
For Donaire to beat Rigondeaux is simple. Rigondeaux will mostly box and counter off his back foot so what I would have Donaire do is take a shot to give a shot. He has to throw a counter to counter Rigo's counter.
he tried that, but it hurts a lot...
I like nonito but to be very honest. There is not much he can do. Styles make fights and rigo's style is the anti-nonito.
Nonito is a boxer-puncher. In other words he is technical but oce he gets hit clean, he will start swinging for the fences. Basically he will get uncomposed and start searching for the knockout.
Which plays into rigo's hit and don't get hit style. He will retreat and pot shot, while nonito goes searhing for shots that aren't to be had.
Unless nonito slows down, and strictly boxes. I don't see him beating rigo, he's all wrong for nonito. He has the attributes but his style (philosophy of fighting) is why he will fail.
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rigo's weakness = left hook
best left hook = nonitos
simple
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LOL playing the counter game with Donaire is playing with fire. He has amazing speed, great accuracy and insane one punch KO power. If anything it's guys that can get inside and try to bully him around that have a better chance at beating him. Concepcion had success because he was so much bigger than donaire when they fought.
Rigo's chin + Donaire's speed, power and accuracy = highlight reel KO. No way Rigo avoids nonito's punches thru 12 rounds.
This thread is a gem.
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Actually that could well of been the guy I had an avatar bet with
Credit to Pacdbest though he is one of the only few that appears to of stuck around.
Yeah one of the Nonitards bet me all their points against all of mine on the fight (I think it might've been Pacdbest actually)...no clue who it was with though. Not that I even care about points.
Loooool!
"Insane one punch KO power"
People here always think power can carry a fighter.
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Hey man, have you seen Light Speed around? This dude was one of the biggest talkers. The kid pulled a mushahadeen... disappeared.
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Actually that could well of been the guy I had an avatar bet with
Credit to Pacdbest though he is one of the only few that appears to of stuck around.
puga too... well he admitted defeat then disappeared.
I don't think it was Light Speed. I don't think even think it was a hardcore Donaire fan.
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rigo's weakness = left hook
best left hook = nonitos
simple
LOL playing the counter game with Donaire is playing with fire. He has amazing speed, great accuracy and insane one punch KO power. If anything it's guys that can get inside and try to bully him around that have a better chance at beating him. Concepcion had success because he was so much bigger than donaire when they fought.
Rigo's chin + Donaire's speed, power and accuracy = highlight reel KO. No way Rigo avoids nonito's punches thru 12 rounds.
This thread is a gem.
:lol1:
Actually that could well of been the guy I had an avatar bet with :rofl:
Credit to Pacdbest though he is one of the only few that appears to of stuck around.Yeah one of the Nonitards bet me all their points against all of mine on the fight (I think it might've been Pacdbest actually)...no clue who it was with though. Not that I even care about points.
Hey man, have you seen Light Speed around? This dude was one of the biggest talkers. The kid pulled a mushahadeen... disappeared.
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Actually that could well of been the guy I had an avatar bet with :rofl:
Credit to Pacdbest though he is one of the only few that appears to of stuck around.
Go learn how to cut off the ring, jab, bodypunch and work on dealing with movement. As much as I thought Rigo dominated him and made him look amatuerish; if DOnaire spends 6 months just working on these things everyday he will be much better.
The things Nonito showed he lacked vs Rigo are all things that are teachable.
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Did you just call Rigo's mobility narrow? Rigo has by FAR the better feet between the two. Rigo is known for his feet. The dude has basically the best footwork ever in the history of boxing. His mobility is unreal.
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Rigo doesn't go into defensive mode. He is the consummate counter puncher, if you don't push the issue, he will wait. If you come at him, you are going to eat some monstrous shots in return.
Did you watch the Cordoba fight? After he got dropped by a jab he became overly cautious and stunk out the joint.
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Rigondeaux is open for the left hook!!!!
Guess what, Donaire is open for absolutely everything!
His defense sucks.
Yes he's open but it's not his defense you have to worry about, it's his lethal counters. Throwing punches at Donaire is like trying to touch a mouse trap. A mouse trap is an easy target, the problem is can you touch it without getting hurt in return.
Very ironic.
It seemed like Donaire was the one getting pushed back everytime he threw, whether he landed or missed.
Bahaha... lethal counters.
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if rigo boxes , he'd get beat by activity
if he let's his hands go , he'd get countered and koed
i realy dont see how he could win this one..
mares on the othe hand is the real threat
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Hey man, have you seen Light Speed around? This dude was one of the biggest talkers. The kid pulled a mushahadeen... disappeared.
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if rigo boxes , he'd get beat by activity
if he let's his hands go , he'd get countered and koed
i realy dont see how he could win this one..
mares on the othe hand is the real threat
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