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How good is this guy? I have seen his two most recent wins against Adamek and Ruiz, and he looked great at times, but he also looked like shit at times too. He seems like a really unpolished fighter who gets by because his athleticism is just amazing. I really wish his fight with Tarver would have come off instead of being cancelled due to a money dispute. It would have been a nice test, because most veterans know how to take away an experienced fighter's athleticism. Who should Dawson fight next to bump his status up? I think a bout with Zsolt Erdei would probably be a good fight for him. Then he could take on the winner of Woods-Gonzalez. That would put him in line to take on Hopkins (if he is still there), or possibly Tarver or Glen Johnson (because you know his appeal is going to be a lot bigger if he beats Erdei and the Woods-Gonzalez winner) Regardless of all the, "Who should Chad Dawson fight next?" talk above, what does everyone think of him? I wouldn't go as far as calling Dawson shit, but I'm not completely sold. He's looked pretty pedestrian to me at times and I've seen little trace of anything truly dynamic yet.

You haven't seen anything dynamic yet? Ummm, you are talking about Chad Dawson in the light heavyweight division right? Yes, talent and dynamics are not the same thing. Haven't you heard?

I may not be allowed to mention who it is, but one member I know of was a professional kickboxer with an undefeated record in the heavyweight divison. Extremely good kickboxer with excellent power. If they see this; admit to it. You should be proud, man.

They guy doesnt take boxing seriously. It not his trash talking that I dont like because it is part of them game. But it is his training regien and discpline. He thinks that he could go around with his chin and power to beat his oppenet easly but he smokes and drinks. That is more insulting to the oppenet than even trash talking about his mother, because you dont respect the oppennet power. See in the Vargas interview he was smoking as if saying you are not worth even for me to train. You are what you trained to do and if Mayorga doesnt take his even chin go down and even power fad away espically if you dont train. I don't mind Mayorga. He's a colorful character who always entertains me.

It's hard to say, Addison. I agree with you when you say that Winky will have trouble with larger, stronger opponents. For some reason I think Winky could give Calzaghe lots of trouble. I understand the community is really high on him at the moment, but as I've heard you mention recently Joe C. has trouble with defensive minded counterstrikers and Winky is the best, still, when it comes to that.

He's screwed. He never should have took that re-match with Kelly Pavlik. I mean, now he's got no options, except for a third re-match, which would deffinitley be career-ending. It's like Chris Byrd after he lost to Wlad that second time... he might have to just start over. Jermain's in some deep shit if you ask me. What do y'all think he's gonna do? I totally disagree. Taylor has very good prospects, and most people feel he redeemed himself in the Pavlik rematch. Jermain wasn't in the best place before the loss to Pavlik. There are all sorts of possibilities for the kid. He can take his career to new highs.

Think Hatton will ever fight him? I'm assuming the implication is that Hatton is afraid to lose to Witter because of the rivalry between them? Because Hatton is not afraid of losing itself, clearly.

Yeah, the hype that trainers get from their charge's efforts is marked. Enzo Calzaghe is a good mind and a respectable man but he's extremely overhyped. And that is not to say he's not a good trainer. Just overhyped.

What boxer did u think was gna die in the ring when he was taking a beating? I gta say i think paulie - cotto has to be a canidtate his face was so messed up and so is cotto-quinto carlos say it better himself "im dead,im dead" in his corner before they stopped the fight and i gta admit i thought carroles was done against castilo too. I would say Roy Jones Jr. after he was knocked out by Glen Johnson.

6th?????? only the 6th greatest sports character of all time????? Who was possibly better then him, u ask??? Don King was 5 somehow, Mcenroe was 4 (ahead of Ali is a little rediculous but he is cearly one of the great characters), Tyson was 3, Bob Knight was 2 (another great character but ahead of Tyson and Ali? cmon), and #1 was DENNIS RODMAN!!!! Rodman was a fuckin idiot, nobody enjoyed his antics and nobody fuckin liked him! I mean c'mon now. lol. ALi is the greatest showman is sports history hands down, and because he was such a showman he was considered THE most famous man alive at his peak. Not 1 other guy on that list was ever considered the most famous person in AMERICA, let alone the world... I agreed with pretty much everything you're saying if that was how they ranked it. Rodman and Knight? Trashy.

Hatton would maul Malignaggi and I would love to see it happen.

Whats the hardest punch in boxing that does the most damage? i would say right hand Generically speaking it's a hook.

He's been a pro for like 12 years. He's been in about a dozen hard and grueling fights. But about the fading? What indication do you have? I'm having a tough time deciding who I like this weekend.

I have no desire to see Barrera keep fighting.

Manny seemed a little bit suprised, I wouldn't say shocked. He was very gracious and humble about getting the decision.

Everything is the same but he's White? Of course he's just as intimidating. This is a weird question. If you think White guys can't be intimidating you need to get out more.

a lot of tysons opponents have that they have been hit harder . By who? Grey Hound?..

Yes you can still wear a gun in Az. And yes you never know who has one concealed. There's a lot of dudes who'd rather shoot you than fight ya. Aye, PHX. Thanks for that info. It seems they like shootin' the cop-pers in AZ. When I was living there- they would have constant reports of people shooting at the police..

Very Noble Deliveryman, wish i could say the same. Ive had more than my fair share of rucks. Im just not a good enough person to let peeps get away with taking liberties! Here Here! Delivery, read up on my man Robo.

Damn bet that felt Whack, still coulda been worse u coulda hit him! I got slashed once, stabbed once and bottled once but luckily we got very little shootings here! Only a handfull of peeps in my town fuck around with guns, thankfully. Yeah, the shooting shit is never needed, ever. Thankfully I've just been threatened. The shotgun incident took place in Arizona. Legally you can carry a gun on your waist if it's holstered. You can walk into a shopping mall with a .357 and buy an ice cream. I'm not sure if that law is different now- it's been a few years since 99'. PHX might be able to tell us... Anyway, the gun shit has totally fucked up streetfighting. Now you have to gauge whether the guy that's talking shit, or the guy you want to fuck up has a .380 in his pocket... It's shitty. Fuck guns.. Fuck em'. Bottles, knifes and other shit is no picnic either. Kids, do not try this at home. Robo, myself, PHX, Hemi, Pesti, Ash, Eye, KayJay, Strom and others are skilled veterans and know the dangers of risk. For any young guys reading this remember- the most important things in life are money and sex. Not violence.

****ALERT**** Ok, breaking news! I just saw something go down... I was driving up to Blockbuster video near my house about 15 minutes ago. I see these 2 tough looking Mexican gangster types walking up the street. On my way back I see the same 2 guys plus 2 more arguing with someone pulled over on the side of the road. I slowly roll up to the stoplight and I see this one White dude jump out of the car and start running towards all 4 of these Mexican dudes with something in his hand. The Mexican dudes start to back up and run a little bit. All 4 of them! The White dude is screaming and I can see it's a tire iron or something. He follows the Mexican dudes a little ways up the street and turns around. They turn and follow him as soon as he does, and then he whips around and runs full speed at these 4 guys. They all start backpeddling and running again. This seesaws once or twice more. I can tell one of the Mexican guys is saying something to the White dude as he walks away headed for his car. The White dude turns again and throws the tire iron down and starts running at these guys with his arms up screaming and yelling even louder! The Mexican dudes start running! Even though he's not armed now!!!!!!!!!!! One guy is chasing 4 Mexican gangster dudes!!!!!!!!!!!! The White dude turns back as they retreat and gets back in his car - I could see there was another guy and a girl waiting in the car. They're slapping him on the back and laughing, but he's all business. Fucking nutcase! TRUE STORY!!!!!!!!!! This just happened, just now. I have never seen Mexican dudes retreat ever like that... I think I'm in the Twilight Zone... Me and all these other cars were just stopped even though the light turned green... Great story ROCK! Nice Selena shot too!

Cheers to that. :boxing: I suppose those who use weapons feel very powerful, but it does take old school values to decide to duke it up. I strongly believe in talking about whatever issue you may have with someone, just to clarify a situation. However, I was taught to defend myself, so that I can also defend my loved ones if need be. It's all about honor, something a lot of folks with chips on their shoulders seem to lack. The one thing that does make me snicker, is the 'Hot Head' who thinks he's a force to be reckoned with when he's angry. You are at your weakest mental state when you're angry, and it seems these individuals feel the need to prove something. The type who get drunk, can't handle their liquor, and look for trouble anywhere they can. I find it absurd, but whatever. Good post man. Yeah, it's not like these punks have health insurance. You can't band-aid a slash wound! Fucking maniacs. These kids were raised on comics, video games, movies, Springer, music, cereal, crack, meth, and speed. I never picked up a weapon in my life. That's a death sentence if you ask me.

Nah Spirit u made the smart move there bud! U mite hav got away with it but mite have got plunged for ur trouble, too risky! Id only fight a dude with a blade if i had to. Ur rite man most peeps that carry weapons do it coz there a bitch at heart and cant fight for shit! Thanks #1, I wasn't sure I did that the right way but I agree- dude could have gotten in a nice deep plunge if I made the wrong move. He looked jumpy to the point where I figured he had an excellent chance of diving that blade into me.. Of course, if I had gotten that knife from him I wouldn't want that either. They only throw the weapon away in the movies.. Once someone threatens your life you think differently.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! :firedevil I think Ad Rock is right- everybody is a fucking snitch these days! (US) Pretty soon all the Yanks that left the Isles will come back. Most of em' will probably get beat up cause they're not used to street fightin. HAHAHAHAHA.

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I don't really like getting into street fights cuz its not really worth it. A lot of times guys that get into street fights don't really know what they are up againts and get hurt real bad. I have probablly gotten into 3 serious scuffles in my life, 2 of which were rumbles. In one I ended up hurting a guy real bad when I hit him harder than I intended to.I had to pick him up off the floor and I was really scared for him and what I did. The most satisfying one though was againts a skinhead in front of his lady friends when I was hanging out in the driveway of my friends house with a bunch of guys. This swastika tated huge bald headed white guy started talking smack and getting racist. He looked like trouble so we tried ignoring him but some of the guys I was with were clowning so they wouldn't look like pussies. The skinhead needed to impress the ladies he was with, I guess, so he went to the middle of the street and asked for a fight. All the dudes I was with woulda gotten whooped by this guy and didn't want none. He was bigger than all of us. I was scared too until he said something to the effect of- you dirty mud people are easy, always scared or something like that, which just made me say something I could'nt back out of. Now I have koed people In the ring my size, but this guy was easily over 225lbs above 6' compared to my 5'9 1/2 foot 160-5lb frame, and he was built solid. Not really knowing what to expect, I walked to the middle of the street to his surprise and said id give him a shot. The bitches he was with were rowdy and thirsty for my blood, screaming and yelling racist Ching Chang chong type comments which made me want to shut em up more and beat this guys ass. I was the first to throw, and it was a bomb, hoping I could change this guys mind or knock him out. It definitely made him think as he immediately tried taking me to the ground. My hand was in bad shape and swollen from that shot.So I hit him again with a 1-2 and drew blood from his nose. I got him with other counters as well. I was shocked he was still trying to wing me with wild haymakers and got a good one in when I wasn't expecting it. I shrugged it of and was relieved This guy hit like a pussy. Before I threw another shot this dude got me on the floor and we were rolling around. I had him in a tight headlock and ended up on top as I tried to suffucate him to submission will throwing left hand shots to his body. He did a no mas but he wasn't leaving till I dogged on him somemore letting him know how a smaller Filipino dude made him quit and he was inferior. And the bitches he was with shut their traps as well. I didn't really have a mark on me exept scratches from rolling on the concrete an a little bump from that shot he hit me with. On the other hand he looked like shit and looked like he needed stitches. He was bleeding from different parts of his head and his eye had closed. I usually would have expected to feel guilty about doing someone like that, I felt good about this one though. I'm with #1- that's some street justice for ya. Well done.

Ok I'll talk about my most recent "fight" it was in 8th grade I'm in 10th now. LoL it was one of those school bus confrontations. Yeh they usually are pretty lame. So yeah I was sitting next to this migdet kid "Erin". We were talking about him being jewish or something and then I said jokingly "So does that mean your a JEW?" and then all the sudden he's get all mad and he's like wtf you want to go? I'm like WTF dude your jewish which means you are a jew. Why do you take offence to that i'm just stating a fact lol. I wasn't serious. But he really wants to fight me so like the next day he brings his gangsta friend with him so he can witness the coming "beatdown" (remember this kid's a midget I don't want to hurt him). So we both get off at the same stop and I'm like dude I ain't going to fight you cause I'd kick your ass really bad. He doesn't care he just starts flinging himself at me I stand there pushing the little midget away while he tries all this crazy shit he tried everything kicking punching all useless. His gangsta friend there told me if I didn't kick this midgets ass he'll kick mine. I was like fuck this I ain't going to fight someone that much smaller than me. I start walking home and this midget is still trying to fuck me up. He come at me with a flying jump kick or someshit I push him to the ground. He stops fighting but his gangsta friend came over and clocked me in the face. It didn't really hurt though. I was more worried bout him pulling a weapon on me. So that was the end of that. 2 weeks later this midget gets expelled from the school for pulling a knife on someone. Stupid kid.... Earlier that same year I was in shop class on the computer looking at some guys model car on there turns out it was dominick. He's the biggest jock in my grade, also the biggest prick. He's always saying shit like "Dude I'll punch you in the face" but he never does shit like that. So yeah I'm sitting there on the computer and some bastard kid says "Hey Dom, Nick is looking at your car" next thing I know Dom comes over and pushes me off my chair into a table. I became so enraged that I swung a huge right hook towards his head it landed on the side of his head, I was ready for the fight of my life at that moment cause all the shit dom talks about beating my ass. After the punch he just turns and walks away without saying a word. I didn't say anything I was just amazed of his reaction I was expecting a fight but no he just walks away I stood in amazement.... Dom is supposed to be a fucking tough guy hard ass but he just walks away. He never talked shit to me again after that. I guess he realized I meant business with that punch and he wanted no part of it. I've yet to get myself into a real brutal 1vs1 fight with someone. But hey I'm still young anything can happen. Way to shut that guy down. Sometimes school is like prison- you have to let people know you can't be fucked with.. Concentrate on the chicks above all else.. No chicks in prison..

Me vs Terrance, this one was probably one of my three best if not the best as far as back and forth In high school, one of my friends one day walking home was throwing rocks at this puerto rican and black guys. The next day they were supposed to fight and the black guy (Terrance) called out my friend and my friend was scared and didnt want to fight. After that terrance thought he was the hardest dude alive. One day Me and another friend were walking home behind Terrance and two of his friends and we werecrackin jokes and stuff and I guess Terrance heard us laughing and thought we were laughing at him cause he kept looking back trying to mad dog us. Im all about fighting so I wasnt going to take that, I saw a hackey sack on the ground so I picked it up and threw it at them a couple times and after we talked shit back and forth. Terrance said "Fuck that, this shit ends now!" and he took his head phones off and squared up, I did too and it was on. He was circling to my left so I was thinking I was going to just land one left hook (my hardest punch) and knock him out cause he was moving into it. I threw it and at the same time he threw a right and our fists hit eachother, I pivoted my foot and I had on payless shoes that zipped up and werent zipped all the way so when I pivoted my foot twisted out of the shoe. I looked down at my foot and pushed my foot back in and looked at terrance and he was jumping up to throw a kick, he threw a side kick that hit my ribs, I tried to catch it but didnt in time and them grabbed him in a bear hug and went for a slam but he nailed me in my forehead, I let go and backed off and we traded punches, I wrapped him up again and went for a slam and he slid out and backed off, we went to trade again, punch for punch, it was crazy. I remember his punches coming and then all of a sudden they stopped, It was because I had caught him with a right hand right on his eye socket. He covered up and said "AAHHHH!!" I grabbed his shirt with my left and threw another right but it was blocked, then I put alot into one more right and it landed flush on his eye socket again, he was covering up so I wrapped him up and slammed him, I went to pummel him on the ground but he covered and turned over, so I got him a rear naked choke, he threw a backward punch and his thumb went right into my eye. I told him to tap or I was gonna put him out, he didnttap but everyone watching was telling me to let him go cause I guess his face looked bad and they thought I was going to kill him. I tightened the choke and lifted him off the ground with it and his friend grabbed his foot and started yanking him away so I just let him go. His eye swole up and after that he started walking a different way home, he didnt hang out with those same friends and he started acting and dressing completely differant. That's raw. I like that you took us through each blow. That's the most important shit. Each blow is like a perfect snowflake that has to be captured. Honestly, I think Hollywood has never gotten fight scenes.. They always rush us into these silly setups. They pass over the significance of a punch, a kick, a headbut; in the movies. Individual punches and moves are legendary inside my mind. I once saw a guy punch a hurled Margarita pitcher out of the air into a million peices in a crowded bar. I saw someone get hit with such a huge haymaker right- he bounced off the concrete so hard it knocked out two of his teeth. I saw a friend of mine throw a perfect strike with a baseball through the back window of a retreating car from at least 100 feet in the dark, at an angle. Thanks Squabbs.

That sucks. Where I come from there were rules. No two on one; no kicking, no biting. If you did that shit you ruined your rep. Right on, Jay. They should have that everywhere.

Dude if my story was gangsta shit then yours is mob story. Damn !!! Yeah, but on the real- that was the wildest thing I EVER heard about. That was a drug thing, and I'm sure whoever did watched WAY too many movies. He was this nice hippie dude that got fuckin' executed.. That was wrong.

The only real fist fight I have ever been in in my whole life. Me and my brother going toe to toe bare knuckled. Man, that was a crazy ass fight. I thought I had a broken rib my brother thought he had a broken jaw. Crazy fight...I thought for sure one of us would stop, but no. Why did you fight? Where were you? Blow by blow, what happened? Who won?