"Team" Calzaghe is a joke.

if enzo calghe had fighters like amir khan and kevin mighty mitchell in his gym they'd be alot better fighters than they currently are. agree with some of the posters above that enzo sr has maximised the potential rom the likes of gavin rees and bradley pryce, he has maximimsed their strengths to a point where they now hide their weaknesses. joe calzaghe is however a genius boxer with the kinda skills that sometime you just can teach. ________ Yamaha Tx81Z History

Common that was never a 50/50 fight! To most experts and fans Haye was the clear favourite. They could fight 10 times and Haye would win about 8 of them. Haye is just on another level. And Enzo Calzaghe is a verry good trainer for his son, since he formed calzaghe and teached him to fight but if hes an good overall trainer for other fighters that is the question. Most times the father/son relationship works verry well for fighters. Most of these guys have unique styles like Mayweather, Calzaghe or Byrd and they are trained and formed by their Daddys. Mayweather is p4p Nr.1, Calzaghe is p4p Top5 and Byrd was a heavyweightchampion as an natural light-heavyweight and he had an unique style. completely agree mate.

This is based on Enzo being KOed in a 50/50 fight where both fighters have 1 punch KO power? Please... Common that was never a 50/50 fight! To most experts and fans Haye was the clear favourite. They could fight 10 times and Haye would win about 8 of them. Haye is just on another level. And Enzo Calzaghe is a verry good trainer for his son, since he formed calzaghe and teached him to fight but if hes an good overall trainer for other fighters that is the question. Most times the father/son relationship works verry well for fighters. Most of these guys have unique styles like Mayweather, Calzaghe or Byrd and they are trained and formed by their Daddys. Mayweather is p4p Nr.1, Calzaghe is p4p Top5 and Byrd was a heavyweightchampion as an natural light-heavyweight and he had an unique style.

Er ... no. It comes from Haye's own comments. Haye's the first to admit that being at CW affects his stamina and power. As for the Calzaghe stable, if you can't admire the fact that those fighters are achieving far beyond their dreams or talent then you're a sad fuck. One defeat doesn't take away from the fact they're doing a superb job up there. are you mad, they are all achieving very little. No belt means anything if you fighting completely worthless opposition.

I don't think it's a case of not admiring their achievements, I think it's the way their camp treated Haye. Haye was the belt holder and their comments lacked class and justice was served when Macca got beat. The above video shows this. I hope Macca can recover from this but he won't get any credit from me if he continues to fight bin men after this.

the idea that haye is lacking stamina comes from a bad very very early performance. yeah macca has stamina, I'll give him that, but he doesn't have the skill. Er ... no. It comes from Haye's own comments. Haye's the first to admit that being at CW affects his stamina and power. As for the Calzaghe stable, if you can't admire the fact that those fighters are achieving far beyond their dreams or talent then you're a sad fuck. One defeat doesn't take away from the fact they're doing a superb job up there.

Enzo Calzaghe said some ignorant things in the build up and denied Haye an ounce of respect or credit. Here's a video showing some of the stuff he was saying: Hopefully, as a trainer, he'll be humbled by this defeat and show more respect to his boxers opponents in the future, but it's doubtful. That video was f*cking amazing! I've got tears of laughter from watching that vid! Totally f*cking owned! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

you say this, but most if everyone who knew anything about the fighters knows Macca has the greater stamina. The Calzaghe fighters are superbly conditioned. I mean, you can't do that much. the idea that haye is lacking stamina comes from a bad very very early performance. yeah macca has stamina, I'll give him that, but he doesn't have the skill.

The Calzaghe fighters are superbly conditioned.Gotta agree with this, seeing Macca not break a sweat against Braithwaite was something, the guy was a fish with no water come those later rounds like 2 years before...

As an outsider I have to say you are wrong. David Haye was ripped and athletic, Enzo looked like a chump. you say this, but most if everyone who knew anything about the fighters knows Macca has the greater stamina. The Calzaghe fighters are superbly conditioned. I mean, you can't do that much. Rees beat M'Baye on having superb stamina alone. He will lose his next fight though because he ain't a world class fighter, especially at light welter.

This is based on Enzo being KOed in a 50/50 fight where both fighters have 1 punch KO power? Please... As an outsider I have to say you are wrong. David Haye was ripped and athletic, Enzo looked like a chump.

you could say that about any fighter in any fight, the better fighters dont get hit as clean or as often, and a guy being knocked out in the 2nd round is nowhere near a 50/50 fight. Enzo=Joe haha ha. your a clown mate. to compare joe to enzo is a joke.

you could say that about any fighter in any fight, the better fighters dont get hit as clean or as often, and a guy being knocked out in the 2nd round is nowhere near a 50/50 fight. Enzo=Joe haha Do you fancy increasing out bet to 50k btw?

Well maybe it wasn't 50/50 but If Macca connected cleanly it could have been a different story. You know what I mean... you could say that about any fighter in any fight, the better fighters dont get hit as clean or as often, and a guy being knocked out in the 2nd round is nowhere near a 50/50 fight. Enzo=Joe haha

Well maybe it wasn't 50/50 but If Macca connected cleanly it could have been a different story. You know what I mean... but macca didnt connect cleanly, because Haye was prepared, and is a class above enzo.

Plain and basic common sense. thats how i look at it, but there do seem to be far too many people who suffer knee jerk reactions if you even dare criticise team calzaghe. these are the same people who go on about haye macca 50/50...............

Well maybe it wasn't 50/50 but If Macca connected cleanly it could have been a different story. You know what I mean...

This is based on Enzo being KOed in a 50/50 fight where both fighters have 1 punch KO power? Please... correct, but most people in the know and not connected to Warren did give Haye the edge before the fight, even if just. The fight wasn't as simple as who landed first, as frankwarren.tv wanted everyone to believe, it was also about who 'allowed' themselves to be hit first.

This is based on Enzo being KOed in a 50/50 fight where both fighters have 1 punch KO power? Please... 50/50 fight my ass, there's a reason most were backing Haye.

BUT the amazing thing is even though Enzo isn't as good as Haye and Rees is rubbish Enzo calzaghe took 2 pro's who were pretty rubbish to begin with and made them into world class material, he took something minimal and maximised it. They might not be the best champions in the world but there on the world stage and Enzo Calzaghe put em there. Joe on the other hand is something else, a great fighter who cleaned out his division and is now looking to the big names for his last few fights.