Who Can Winky Wright Beat At This Point?

It's hard to say, Addison. I agree with you when you say that Winky will have trouble with larger, stronger opponents. For some reason I think Winky could give Calzaghe lots of trouble. I understand the community is really high on him at the moment, but as I've heard you mention recently Joe C. has trouble with defensive minded counterstrikers and Winky is the best, still, when it comes to that. AS! :beerchug: Yep. :fing02: Joe is a good solid puncher but not quite good enough to put Wink in any serious danger of getting hurt or stopped. All Joe's dipsey-doodle stuff would have very little, to no effect, whatsoever. Winky would block and pop, block and pop, block and pop.. He would be firing those straight 1,2's right down the fucking barrel again and again.. Damn.. I feel like I'm talking to myself.. :lol1: Nice to see you on the internet. :cool: HaHA..

It's hard to say, Addison. I agree with you when you say that Winky will have trouble with larger, stronger opponents. For some reason I think Winky could give Calzaghe lots of trouble. I understand the community is really high on him at the moment, but as I've heard you mention recently Joe C. has trouble with defensive minded counterstrikers and Winky is the best, still, when it comes to that.

lmao ... I thought it said who CAN beat Winky.

he can beat them all except calzaghe and maybe pavlik

Jermain Taylor, Edison Mirinda, and Allen Green. MAYBE Jeff Lacy...

I just don't think he should be whining and walking outta the ring when he didn't TAKE the fight from JT. Vargas can be added to that list, too. he didnt take the fight from jt???about 70% of people thougt so at teh end of the fight.....about 70% of press row think he did, JT didnt really look confident when the decision was anounced...hell he looked like he wanted to cry(and you know i love jt as well)..... vargas looked more confident for gods sake...even though even more people thought wink beat vargas tahn the ones who thought he beat jt... and giving up 2 of the last 3 rounds aint exactly lack of passion....not when you and most people thought you had already won the fight... 99% people who had it a draw or jt winning had taylor winning the 12th...that says it all.....

what do you mean not anymore?the fights against taylor and hopkins?.....i could see his lack of passion against hops....he came at 170 and flabby and got tired because of that and the fact that he had to carry the 180 squid that is hopkins for 12 rounds.... against taylor he took off 1 round....a round jt also took off....a round jermain taylor fired half the shots winky did , a round jermain taylor landed 1/4 teh shots winky did..a round winky controlled the pace a round anyone watching objectively would think its astinker but a round won by ronald wright and a fight in the bag for him... I just don't think he should be whining and walking outta the ring when he didn't TAKE the fight from JT. Vargas can be added to that list, too.

Maybe he had it then, but not anymore, imo. what do you mean not anymore?the fights against taylor and hopkins?.....i could see his lack of passion against hops....he came at 170 and flabby and got tired because of that and the fact that he had to carry the 180 squid that is hopkins for 12 rounds.... against taylor he took off 1 round....a round jt also took off....a round jermain taylor fired half the shots winky did , a round jermain taylor landed 1/4 teh shots winky did..a round winky controlled the pace a round anyone watching objectively would think its astinker but a round won by ronald wright and a fight in the bag for him...

passionate in the way stupid people are.....trying to show off... you cant see the passion in a guy who was a top amateur after 1 year of picking up the sport??a man who has probably gone through more obstacles than any other elite fighter today and never gave up till he reached the status he has now?? Maybe he had it then, but not anymore, imo.

Seriously, you can't??? I could see if you said intelligence, but you can't say that he's not passionate. passionate in the way stupid people are.....trying to show off... you cant see the passion in a guy who was a top amateur after 1 year of picking up the sport??a man who has probably gone through more obstacles than any other elite fighter today and never gave up till he reached the status he has now??

i can see the passion in zabdiel judah :ugh: :luvbed: Seriously, you can't??? I could see if you said intelligence, but you can't say that he's not passionate.

That's my biggest problem with Winky. I'm definitely not saying that he's a boring fighter- I think a distinction needs to be made. Boring is when you do all the neccesary things to win but just don't show too much "flash".. That's part of Winky- and I have no problem with that. Technical fighters are my favorite kinds. But what I feel is wrong with Winky is that he has no DRIVE. He's not a hungry, driven fighter in the ring. You need reference? Check out the Vargas fight. Check out the end of the Taylor. i can see the passion in zabdiel judah :ugh: :luvbed:

the 8 rounds he fought, he won(whooping ass is too strong a word...)...the other ones were a clinch fest because as always, winky was tired and thought he had already won 8 rounds......B]i hold it against wink that he doesnt learn he wont get close decisions......in fact i wouldnt have problem if people said bernard's flurries and size(along with his dirty fighting) won him teh fight vs wink....i could certainly see bernard was stealing the drama of the fight with much more showy flashes...but when stupid people try to say bernard neutralised wink's jab(most landed punch of the fight), got clean right hand shots at wink(like 1 per round) beat him on the inside(50 shots at winkys legs-back-ass) i find those people the most idiotic beings ever... The bolded is exactly why I've never liked Winky.

That's my biggest problem with Winky. I'm definitely not saying that he's a boring fighter- I think a distinction needs to be made. Boring is when you do all the neccesary things to win but just don't show too much "flash".. That's part of Winky- and I have no problem with that. Technical fighters are my favorite kinds. But what I feel is wrong with Winky is that he has no DRIVE. He's not a hungry, driven fighter in the ring. You need reference? Check out the Vargas fight. Check out the end of the Taylor. I hear what you're saying. But compare Winky's technical style to that of JMM's. U can tell Marquez puts everything on the line when he fights, and takes nessesary risks if and when he has to. Winky doesnt. He focuses to much on NOT getting hit, rather than inflicting damage on his opponents.

Good post, but you think Winky whooped Bernard's ass? the 8 rounds he fought, he won(whooping ass is too strong a word...)...the other ones were a clinch fest because as always, winky was tired and thought he had already won 8 rounds......i hold it against wink that he doesnt learn he wont get close decisions...... in fact i wouldnt have problem if people said bernard's flurries and size(along with his dirty fighting) won him teh fight vs wink....i could certainly see bernard was stealing the drama of the fight with much more showy flashes...but when stupid people try to say bernard neutralised wink's jab(most landed punch of the fight), got clean right hand shots at wink(like 1 per round) beat him on the inside(50 shots at winkys legs-back-ass) i find those people the most idiotic beings ever...

Honestly, i can care less if i ever see Winky fight on t.v ever again. I was never much a fan of his peekaboo then jab style. It seems as if he fights just to make it to the 12th, hoping he gets the nod, instead of bringing the pain to his opponents, and trying to win by a decisive margin. People will say "he's not boring, he throws alot of punches" Ok, yes he might throw punches, but they have absolutely zero power behind them. He kind've reminds me of Ouma. They both throw a bunch of steamless punches. I would only be interested in seeing Winky fight Pavlik. It will be like watching a kid block his face when his mother is going to hit him! LOL. That's my biggest problem with Winky. I'm definitely not saying that he's a boring fighter- I think a distinction needs to be made. Boring is when you do all the neccesary things to win but just don't show too much "flash".. That's part of Winky- and I have no problem with that. Technical fighters are my favorite kinds. But what I feel is wrong with Winky is that he has no DRIVE. He's not a hungry, driven fighter in the ring. You need reference? Check out the Vargas fight. Check out the end of the Taylor.

His defense improved in his past few fights.. Coincidentally, he's biting Winky's style with the occasional high guard now.. But I don't agree about the stamina. He fought late against Hanshaw, and withstood some crisp bodyshots from Trinidad, after cutting down to 170 for the first time in nearly a decade. I think he's well conditioned. he fought late vs hanshaw because he threw 10 punches around for like 7 rounds...im surprised people didnt see that as a close fight...i barely had roy winning 115-112....and his punches looked awful he was shooting 5 inches before hansaw was in his firing range.... he fought late vs trinidad because he let trinidad punch the shit out of his arms for 5 rounds....losing 4...firing like 10 punches roy has always ate body shot like crazy, teyre no issue for someone who has an armor of muscles, lol... his bad imitation of winky is insulting, he cuts off the ring pathetically, he stands too straight, he can only counter because of his fast hands and can only pull the shell off because he only guards his head(he can let bodyshots hit im because they dont ahve much of an effect on him....), his shell is only putting his arms in front of his head...he cnat do all the parrying and leading winky does.... you know i love roy...but i wish he just retires.....he's a KO waiting to happen...

i think Calzaghe is the only one who beats him almost 100% surely... Andrade-Green-Miranda-Lacy-Jones Jr are almost sure fire wins for winky IMO...even though he is on his last legs... Abraham-Taylor-Pavlik have the fame-flashiness-power to get a robbery decision over wright...but in reality, winky beats them.... kessler id favor 70/30 over winky....he has the fame-flashiness-power-skills and particularly SIZE to get a 8-4 decision over winky.....but winky does have a quick southpaw 1-2...and kessler got dominated by calzaghe's 1-2, so i wouldnt count winky out....hes surprised me before...i though b-hop had ALL advanatges to get a KO over wink.....and wink whooped his ass... Good post, but you think Winky whooped Bernard's ass? come on man, wink has had 1 fight above 160.....i reckon the only ones he'd fight above 160 are calzaghe and jones.... he beats jones, gets beat by calz... at 160 theres only pavlik....and off of pavlik's lack of accuracy and speed, im almost sure winky beats him and gets robbed...and the boxing community will say bullshit like pavlik threw more(like they ever care for that unless its a popular guy) and he has more power(even though its very difficult to get CLEAN shots at winky) Another good post.

Pavlik, Taylor and Abraham are the only ones who could or would fight at 160 which is where Winky needs to fight at because he couldn't carry 170 against Hopkins. None of the others could go to middle to fight him. But if they could only Calzaghe, Kessler, Roy and maybe Miranda based off of his power could beat him.

Honestly, i can care less if i ever see Winky fight on t.v ever again. I was never much a fan of his peekaboo then jab style. It seems as if he fights just to make it to the 12th, hoping he gets the nod, instead of bringing the pain to his opponents, and trying to win by a decisive margin. People will say "he's not boring, he throws alot of punches" Ok, yes he might throw punches, but they have absolutely zero power behind them. He kind've reminds me of Ouma. They both throw a bunch of steamless punches. I would only be interested in seeing Winky fight Pavlik. It will be like watching a kid block his face when his mother is going to hit him! LOL.