Since you all want my opinion on the P4P topic...
I say the #1 spot could be given to Mayweather, Tszyu, Wright, or Barrera, easily. And this isn't like back in 2003, where the debate was hot because no one was doing shit.... these people have actually earned the right to be called the best in the world.
Also, you could put Antonio Margarito in Glen Johnson's spot easily, and Corrales & Castillo are interchangeable. Pacquiao needs to come back with something impressive or risk being known as a flash-in-the-pan, like Mayorga was.
The only think keeping Rafael Marquez out of the top five is the lack of competition at 118 lbs. He could move to 122 & wreck shit, or down to 115 & be unstoppable, and he'd secure a top five (if not top-three) spot.
Boxing is hot shit right now, GP is, IMO, the best up-and-coming boxing writer out there.
"hate barrera the boxer"
You are my new best friend & confidant. :D
Seriously, though, give Juarez a little break. No one had a perfect upcoming. NO, I don't think he can beat Injin Chi right now, but truthfully, I don't think he'll beat him two years from now either. Chi's too rough & hard for him. It's not about experience, just styles. Chi is too much for anyone at 126 not named Pacquiao or Marquez.
Sure, Chi has a style that Juarez could LOOK GOOD AGAINST, but Juarez' bread & butter, his punch, would be wasted on Chi. Chi is straight-ahead, but he's also a busybody who happens to have a good punch himself. It'd be a damned good fight, to say the least, but I can see Chi just bearing down on Juarez & KO'ing him late.
Rocky Juarez ain't overrated.
You know, given his youth & relative lack of experience, I'll give him a pass on the Raheem fight. The ref fucked that fight ALL up, and Raheem's dirt wasn't helping either. Don't stigmatize the kid because he fought a competent fighter who knew ow to take him off his game. Give 'em a rematch, with a different venue & referee, and Juarez wins.
So you think Morales would be tougher & better at 135 than the BAD-ASS Jose Luis Castillo ?
Kid.....If you put Morales in with Castillo, you'd see man vs. boy. Castillo would absolutely murder Morales.
Guess what ? Corrales went toe-to-toe with the BAD-ASS & gave us as great a fight as we've ever seen....& he won !
Morales would get killed by both of the guys who fought this past weekend. They are too big, way too powerful, & too good for the guy who was beaten by Marco Antonio Barrera within this last year.
Those giving Morales a chance against Corrales are asking too much of him, & looking to get him hurt.
You can't really get any more clear than that.
just fight like how hopkins fought tito... just outbox him... if wright does this he'll win by decision.. if not then tito by ko...
Winky can't fight like Hopkins, though. He doesn't have the strength or conditioning, especially at this higher weight class.
Based solely on history, I just can't bring myself to pick Hatton in this one, though I've always been a fan. I don't think he can win, but I'm counting on him putting on a decent showing.
Any 140-lb'er not named Tszyu or Mayweather would likely lose to Hatton.
Hell no.
As big an embarrassment as John Ruiz has been to boxing, Tyson is ten times worse, for fans, promoters, and himself. Tyson is a one-round fighter now, and since I'm fairly confident that Ruiz can take the one or two decent punches that Tyson can throw anymore, I say Ruiz would clobber him around round six.
And as much as it sickens me to say it, I'd be rooting for Ruiz.
I think that three debatable decision wins are infinitely more impressive than getting starched by two no-hopers, and a close call against a guy who got knocked out in one round by the legendary Joe Mesi.
Didn't Wlad also fight some clown named Fabio?
Wait, did I miss something?
Don't you have to actually not fight someone to duck them? You know, I could have SWORN that these two fought earlier this year.
As far as we know, there's only one way to beat Trinidad that actually works: be Bernard Hopkins.
The more I think about it, the more I think that this Saturday's fight is gonna be a slaughter. Wright has nothing for Trinidad.
I'm a big fan of Ouma's & all, but I'm getting just a little tired of hearing about his life. OK, it's unfortunate that he was kidnapped & forced to fight in the Ugandan rebel army, but he's only one of about a million that suffered the same fate. From what I've seen & heard, he's done nothing to help the rest of the people that shared his fate. This guy is interesting enough to see without all the feel-good bullcrap that's forced on us.
Diego Corrales will never be anything less than a very live underdog, no matter WHO he fights; Mayweather included.
But I want you guys to take a close look at his fight with Acelino Freitas. Impressive as his late surge was, the fact remains that he stood idle for seven rounds, lumbering like a zombie & eating punches. Freitas just didn't have the ass to pull it off in the end. He could have ended that fight by asserting himself a little more around round 6 & not relying on half-assed flurries. That much movement & activity is not conductive with his abilities.
Castillo, on the other hand, is a bull. In a slow round, he still throws upward of 60 punches. And it's not like Castillo is just gonna be racking up points on the cards; he's gonna be HURTING Corrales. Corrales has a chance if he gets it in his head to man up in the first few rounds, but Castillo is one of the most dangerous fighters in the world in the later rounds. Corrales only shot is to take care of it early. I just can't see it happening. He's gonna let Castillo into the fight, and it's gonna cost him in the end.
Gatti will get exposed!
Gatti's been exposing HIMSELF for years now. His "resurrection" will always have an asterik next to it, and that asterik will have Gianluca Branco's name by it. Branco's a comparable fighter, physically, and he gave Gatti HELL.
So just imagine what Floyd, the best fighter on the planet, is gonna do to him.
Pacquiao KO11 Morales
Morales is just tough enough to survive for most of the fight against this monster... but he's got too many hard miles on him to sustain the kind of offense it's gonna take to keep Pac off his ass. Bottom line, though... there is no way in hell this turns out to be a bad fight.
I'll tell you right now.... Emmanuel Augustus would beat anyone below Mayweather. But he doesn't fight enough, and he has a lot of losses, albeit bullshit losses.
As a weight class, I'd rate it a helluva lot higher than last year, because these guys are getting off their asses & fighting each other. It's the deepest division in boxing, and these fights should have happened already.
Individually:
1. Tszyu
2. Mayweather
3. Gatti
4. Harris
5. Hatton
6. Cotto
7. Mitchell
8. Corley
9. Witter
10. Augustus
Deuskie, I'm trying to think of topics that'll stop everyone from creating threads every time a question pops into their head. I like this forum & the people on it, but we have WAAAAAAY too many threads, a great deal of which ask the same questions or relate to one another.
I mean the stuff about his overcoming of the odds. Sorry, but I feel worse for the people that AREN'T in the US making bank & becoming famous, that are stuck in Uganda under this regime. Bravo to Kassim, but when can I hear about his fights before I hear about his past?
Jabs
You have a point about Cotto & his weight issues.
However... Jose Luis Castillo is notorious for doing the same thing. People forget that when he fought Juan Lazcano, his last fight had been at WELTERWEIGHT, against some no-hoper. I'm a huge fan of Jose Luis Castillo, but it bugs the hell out of me to see him fighting a guy like Joel Casamayor as a damn junior middleweight. He came in heavy as hell against Julio Diaz, too.
The only reason.... THE ONLY REASON... that a Wlad Klitschko/Chris Byrd fight is even remotely interesting is because Wlad beat Byrd's ass the first time. However, that doesn't make him deserving of a title shot, seeing as how since then he's been buttraped by Sanders & completely collapsed against Lamon Brewster. Wlad is a festering sore on the skin of the heavyweight division, and he needs to be lanced & cleaned.
Thanks, Joe. Kinda sad that my first time here had to be about the heavyweight division, pathetic as it is these days. Sadly enough, I'm looking forward to the James Toney/John Ruiz fight. I'm not really a fan of either guy, so no matter who wins, I'll be OK. I don't really like Toney because he talks much & does little, and Ruiz, well.... that's pretty self-explanatory.