I rate Floyd Mayweather as the #1 I would pick Mayweather to stop Tszyu who I think is the second best, I would pick him to stop Gatti, who I rate above Cotto at this point, and I would pick him to stop Vivian Harris.
So the way I have it is
1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2.Kostya Tzyu
3.Arturo Gatti
4.Vivian Harris
5.Miguel Cotto
I think Floyd Mayweather is far and away the best in the division I think he will prove that against Gatti. It will be a great victory for Mayweather because Gatti is no slouch, I would pick Gatti to stop Cotto or Vivian Harris. The fight we have to see is Tzyu Vs. Mayweather which I think Mayweather will also win, if that fight ever happens.
There is no way on earth that PBF is stronger in any way than KT. Not mentallly, not physically. KT Physically man handles most guys he gets in the ring with, and I don't mean punching power hear. (Ask Sharmba about the first fight). Mentally it's not even close as KT is way more focused and everyone knows it. Plese tell me what your definition of strongness so you have some sort of credibility on this! :mad:
Didn't think I would get a response. Just another nuthugger!
The big thing all of you guys are missing is Cotto isn't top 5. That guy is one dimensional and as soon as he fights anybody better than Chop Chop its going to show. Any of you see that Cotto vs Corely fight. Not impressive at all. The only reason that guy does as well as he does is because he can drop a shitload of weight to fight guys who are a lot smaller than he is. If Cotto fought anybody with real power it would be his retirement fight.
Floyd Mayweather is overall stronger than Kostya. Do not mix up the concept of how damaging a fighters punches are and strongess. Kostya's punches are more damaging than Floyd's, this is true. However Floyd indeed does have overall better strongess.
There is no way on earth that PBF is stronger in any way than KT. Not mentallly, not physically. KT Physically man handles most guys he gets in the ring with, and I don't mean punching power hear. (Ask Sharmba about the first fight). Mentally it's not even close as KT is way more focused and everyone knows it. Plese tell me what your definition of strongness so you have some sort of credibility on this! :mad:
Based on fights to date as opposed to talent or future promise or any other crap:
1.Tsyzu
2.PBF
3.Cotto
4.Hatton
5.Witter
6.Gatti
7.Harris
8.Corley
9.Mitchell
10.Urkal
I think it's funny that one can give credit to Judah for beating Ward and say in the same breath that Gatti's wins over Ward mean nothing.
Judah never lost to Ward. Gatti did.
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I think it's funny that one can give credit to Judah for beating Ward and say in the same breath that Gatti's wins over Ward mean nothing. I also find it very interesting that some of the same people who call Gatti a "bum" (lowest class you can possibly be) also rank him in the top 5-10 at 140 lbs. I'm not even a Gatti fan, but haters annoy me and they had to expose themselves.
Exposed.
Here's my top 10.
1) Kostya Tyszu
1a) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Vivian Harris
5) Junior Witter
6) Arturo Gatti
7) Miguel Cotto
8) Demarcus Corley
9) Oktay Urkal
10) Leonard Dorin
You dont have to be extremely strong to have devastating punching ability. For an example look at Thomas Hearns and other fighters. The effectiveness of punches has more to do with technique, accuracy, and timing, than overall body strongness.
Floyd Mayweather is overall stronger than Kostya. Do not mix up the concept of how damaging a fighters punches are and strongess. Kostya's punches are more damaging than Floyd's, this is true. However Floyd indeed does have overall better strongess.
Well it seems to be the UD here that Mayweather and Tzyu are the top II Jr. Welterweights. They are both most likely to win their upcoming bouts. I think its clear that the fight to see is between Tzyu and Mayweather. I would go with Mayweather in that fight. He has youth, handspeed, strongess, on his side.
Strongness?? I hope that your not trying to say that Mayweather has a strength advantage over KT???
I'll make a list of 5. Keep in mind I still think Tszyu is the man to beat, but this list is in terms of skill/talent
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Kostya Tszyu
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Junior Witter
5. Arturo Gatti
Well it seems to be the UD here that Mayweather and Tzyu are the top II Jr. Welterweights. They are both most likely to win their upcoming bouts. I think its clear that the fight to see is between Tzyu and Mayweather. I would go with Mayweather in that fight. He has youth, handspeed, strongess, on his side.
1. Tsyzu
2. Mayweather
3. Harris
4. Gatti
5. Bruseles :haha: :haha: :haha:
Judah loses to Tszyu and Mayweather. His KO of Spinks doesn't impress me. He should not have been in that fight in the first place. If, he wasn't so careless and cocky in their first meeting the second would've never happened.
Gatti would get to Mitchell's fragile chin eventually at some point in the fight and that would be it. So yes, I do indeed consider Gatti a better fighter than Mitchell. (in response to somebodies question)
I'll tell you right now.... Emmanuel Augustus would beat anyone below Mayweather. But he doesn't fight enough, and he has a lot of losses, albeit bullshit losses.
3.Arturo Gatti
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Do you really think Gatti is a better fighter than Mitchell?
because I think Mitchell would Stop him like DLH did.
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As a weight class, I'd rate it a helluva lot higher than last year, because these guys are getting off their asses & fighting each other. It's the deepest division in boxing, and these fights should have happened already.
Individually:
1. Tszyu
2. Mayweather
3. Gatti
4. Harris
5. Hatton
6. Cotto
7. Mitchell
8. Corley
9. Witter
10. Augustus