So why talk shit and say it wasnt objective when it was???????
Did I call you names or degrade you?
All I said was you werent being objective....meaning your whole(1st) post was about Cotto dominating Williams like Williams was a nobody. Any fair minded person knows this wouldnt be the case.
To your credit though, the second post was more objective and fair.
champ pr (good poster)and cotto fans are really some of my favorite fans
Cool Man!
Im a Cotto fan! Im also a Williams fan, and a Pac fan, and I like Juanma, and dare I say I like Floyd too? Yeah I do.
Im a fan of boxing period, not just 1 fighter.
Although I dont like Ricky Hatton fans.
First Williams didnt got Plastered, but thats anothe story.
Second, Margarito, needs his distance also, so he will leave some oom fo Williams to punch. Williams have foot and a half reach advantage on Cotto. If Cotto gets to the inside, how the fukk Williams wil punch? Ill tell he wont, because COtto will stick his head to Williams chest and pound that body crazy.
As weird as it may sound, Williams height and reach advantage, can be a disadvantage for him and maybe his downfall, because of Cotto being so short!!!!!
Why cant you be objective about anything involving Cotto? Thats great that you like him, I do too, but to try to take away from Williams is absurd. Cotto has a decent shot but its certainly not a walk in the park like your making it out to be.
168 is a bad weight for Williams, but he'd still probably beat everyone there just because the competition there is so bad. At least for now, until Ward and Dirrell finish developing.
SMW is a one of the best divisions right now....
Nope, Williams havent prove he can dominate at 154, much less at 160, let alone 168.
Williams is a JMW or MW, no way in hell he can beat any of those guys, they are bigger than him.
Froch,Bute and Kessler KHTFO within 7 rounds with no problem. B-Hop toys with him, and taylor can beat him too, if he can manage to not gass out late.
At 160 Pavlik and Abraham KHTFO too.
And at 154, Santos, Martinez and Angulo have a chance to beat him.
As good as Williams looks to be, he is unproven yet, as weird as it may sound.
He needs to stop calling eveybody at every weight and he needs to concentrate on the JMW division. He needs a belt and he needs to win some fights, even if they are risly. he should go for Dzinziruk who is the best at JMW, or Santos or Martinez. Then he can go from there.
If people startsanswering his calls, he will be in bad shape, because then he will have to fight everybody or he will look like a bitch and a lot of those giys will beat him too. So he needs to STFU and concentrate in the JMW division and go fom there
Ill call it a bitch move from any of the top SMW if they try to fight WIlliams!!!!!!!!
Beating Quintana, Phillips, Margarito, and WINKY WRIGHT doest prove anything?
If Cotto gets on the inside and gets to Williams ribs, Williams is dead meat, speacially at 147.
Its simply if Williams, fighst Cotto on the 0utside, Cotto will lose, period. IF Cotto gets to Williams ribcage, Williams is fukked.
By the way, what about my post was not objective?!!!!!!!!!!
This one was, the first one wasnt.
this is why cotto has one of the best fanbase, true unbiased opinions from his fans,
you see no biased opinions like with gay ass floyd fans who are always Horsing around and drunk while they give their shitty opinions to give floyd a bad name,
Ask Hore, he loves horsing around, hes retarded, hes retarded and hes a floyd fan:chairshot
Are you kidding? I just commented about how ridiculous that post before yours was.
I wonder when are all the posters who were talking shit yesterday are going to come in here today and admit they should have reserve judgment untill the facts were release instead of running their mouths from reading some hater who writes a blog.
Instead they was just looking for a reason to hate, and they saw one and just went crazy.
People who were calling him a pussy yesterday just reading a false story are going to called him a pussy today and tomorrow and the day after that,
why?
Because they dont know how to be different.
Nothing changing the status quo here on boxingscene.
I just made a Paul Williams thread stating how Paul Williams called out the entire SMW Division and should the SMW's fight him at 168...
Do you know what the majority of the answers was to that question was?...
YES the SMW should fight him at 168 if he called them out....
It wasnt NO the "super middleweights should fight supermiddle weights.."
the majority arguments were if Paul Williams called them out he should fight them at SMW...Not at a catchweight but SMW...
So what does that tell you about boxingscene?:thinking:
It tells me that Boxingscene is full with Poster with Self fulfilling prophecies..
meaning people are going to believe what they want to believe and go by whatever perception they want to go by no matter how facts, logical response you give them...
Nothing changes and everybody always play their roles.
Caught this on the Mayweather/Marquez 144/147 thread.
Knew this was a bait thread.....does have a point though.
which featherweights r u refferin to bro. last time i checked marquez was the light weight champ and was movin up to 140 regardless of fightin floyd or not. are you sayin its impossible for the 135 kingpin to move to 147 and beat the best there?? i think roberto duran would disagree
Nice one! I wanted to reply to that guys post but didnt want to bother reading the bad grammar again!
shut yo ass up you bitch nigguh! get off dem mayweather nutz! floyd will never get no respect until he fight a fair fight against a real welterweight and stop fightin dem featherwights. until den he a ho3!
I feel sorry for you.
if i remember correctly floyd's excuse is that he had to hatton with pillows.
no way, jmm/pbf is a bigger mismatch than pac/hatton.
- hatton was at his best weight class
- jmm is jumping 2 division
- jmm's best weight class is 130-126
- floyd has advantages in every category
Floyds best weight class was 130-135
If I was watching Boxing for the thrill of who gets paid the most...my table would be upside down from my hard on with being paid $15mil "GUARANTEED"....but since i'm not....i'll keep it in my pants...save it for the wife...and appreciate that the Lightweight Champion of the world...called the the former p4p#1, former undisputed Welterweight Chapmion of the world, beat DLH at Jr. Middleweight and Floyd accepted...on top of dicking Marquez on the split....he could've at least given Marquez a higher guarantee for his troubles...and lower the purse split....but I guess he didn't want Marquez to mistake kindess for weakness....
Youre the one who made a thread about how Floyd isnt and will never be the cash cow.
Im not particulaly interested in your feelings on watching the sport, Im participating in the thread.
So I ask again, who is getting more?
BALL UP! You made the thread, own it.
Agreed....JMM is getting what again...his biggest payday of $5mil for this fight while Floyd is getting what...more than $10mil? Hmmm.....pretty obvious who the "true warrior" is in this fight....no matter the outcome on July 18th....at the end of the day...it will prove that Money CAN"T BUY RESPECT...
Guaranteed $15mil.
Who else gets that much?
Mr boat buyer is a WW and should fight WW's. If he can make 140, he should fight JMM and Pac at 140. If not, don't fight em.
JMM called out Mayweather.
Why wont you guys recognize it? Go get on Bhops ass about fighting Pavlik. Jesus.
So! How many ww's have called out mayweather?
Were not talking about that. Were talking about Marquez/Mayweather.
"So!"
Whats next?
"Nanny nanny boo boo!"
As i've said in the other thread....You are right about Marquez calling out mayweather so mayweather calls the shots. But Mayweather gets no respect from me because there have been a handful of other fighters that have called floyd out as well and he simply ignored as if they didnt challenge him at all. 1 in particular called him out to his face. For all the slag Pacquiao has taken about being accustomed to fighting weight drained fighters....the 1 challenge Mayweather does answer....he openly admits that he took the challenge because Marquez is too small for him.
Well you simply wont find me talking shit about Pac, Mayweather, Cotto, Marquez, or any of em. I think people should rethink their bitterness about fighters not doing exactly what they want them do. We cant dictate their lives.
Bayless was right in there immediately anyway the few times they did come together. He was going to have to fight this fight on the outside so was never going to win.
here we go again....
For all the people who says manny would never fight a black fighter well, here you go...and a great black fighter who was p4p at one time in history...let,s see if the roids effect shane going so low in weight ...someone said that shane hasn,t been that low since 1999 and if that,s true then he will lose by ud or maybe by k.o....wow, what money will make you do sometimes???
Its was African-American! lol
Hard to argue against this post! Good shyt! Should we even be mentioning pacq in the same sentence as?
Pernell Whitaker. Come on guys! For all who are anti-pbf sure are doing him a huge favor by hyping pacq this high. pacq is good no doubt about that, but he is far from great.
Well you could argue that Pea didnt beat Chavez. Since he actually didnt.
Not saying I agree with the descision but its a fact.
1 Archie Moore
2 Muhammad Ali
3 Sugar Ray Robinson
4 Jose Napoles
5 Marvin Hagler
6 Joe Louis
7 Harry Greb
8 Benny Leonard
9 Tommy Gibbons
10 Carlos Monzon
11 Oscar De La Hoya
12 Roberto Duran
13 Jack Johnson
14 Floyd Patterson
15 Thomas Hearns
16 Willie Pep
17 Jack O'Brien
18 Carlos Ortiz
19 Wilfredo Gomez
20 Julio Cesar Chavez
21 Dick Tiger
22 Nicolino Locche
23 Floyd Mayweather Jr
24 Harry Wills
25 Gene Tunney
So what do you think? I am not old enough to comment wisely in this issue. I am glad that Bazooka made the list. :boxing:
So anybody cares to start posting???
Scratches his head wondering what their criteria is?
Mayweather mafia are consist of idiots and morons... Pac way way better all around than Floyd not even closed.
Just when i was gonna post about how this thread is actually semi-decent and not all childish with haters and whatnot........
First of all, Leonard was ridiculously awesome. Not that I wasn't aware, but I just love watching him.
Second, my GOD did refs took FOREVER to stop fights back then. They've shown two fights so far where Leonard's opponent was basically unconcious standing up and the ref didn't stop it.
There was one where the guy basically got up, the ref practically helped him up, than just as Leonard was about to go in for the kill, the guy took the mouthpiece out of his mouth and threw it on the ground. Leonard stopped, expecting the fight to be stopped, and the ref picked up the mouthpiece and put it back into the guys mouth. It was totally ridiculous, the guy could have gotten killed.
Yea I just saw it, crazy I felt bad for the guy.
WW's should fight WW's. If Cotto beats Clottey, forget about lil Pac and rematch SSM to establish a linear WW champ.
I do understand your point.
But I just want to know if you would call him a bitch?
Cotto-Pacquiao is a great fight, no bitch move.
Ok but do you call Mayweather a bitch for fighting JMM? In all honesty PBF and JMM are closer in size than Cotto and Pac.
I think it is, but you know. We will have to agree to disagree.
Anyways, what should happend after this fight(Becauise is añready sign) is Cotto-Pacquiao, Mosley-Floyd winners meet in the end!!!!!!!!!!!
What should happen is JMM-PBF winner gets Pac winner of that fights the winner of Mosley-Cotto 2.
Makes more sense because winner PBF/PaC/JMM= P4P no.1
Mosley-Cotto have unfinished biz.