No. Adamek is an exciting fighter with good potential at the weight, and Arreola has already demonstrated he will never be a top HW. I'd pay seriously good money to see Haye v. Adamek before either gets beaten by Wlad or Vitali.
True enough. The result surprised me I must admit, but it was a convincing enough win. I do feel rather sorry for Del-boy on missing out on that bout with Wlad; one suspects forever, now. Still, maybe Fury did him a favour in the end.
Let's hope Fury realizes he still has a long way to go before even thinking about a Klitschko fight himself. Trouble is the division is so poor at present there's very few in that gap (or should it be gaping chasm) between himself and the brothers K, either of whom would destroy him at the present. Haye would be a good fight, although one he would probably lose, but I can't see anything other than a fight with Vitali tempting David back into the ring - and that obviously can't happen before his oft-declared October 'retirement' date.
Haye doesn't want to fight the Klitschkos ever. You are dilusional if you think he actually wants a fight with a Klitschko. Haye will more likely face Chagaev and then idk seeing as how he only fights once or twice a year he will probably retire.
Hardly. Haye didn't want to fight them with the BS deals they offered before; now Vitali has just publicly offered him a straight 50/50 split of all revenues worldwide.
Chagaev won't get a look in; the fight would only sell in the UK, Haye has every right as champ to defend in Britain but Chagaev wouldn't even be licensed to fight there because of his hepatitis (a Valuev type refusal wouldn't even be necessary).
Haye has said he won't fight beyond October 2011.
Of course it was a real fight; it was just a hopeless mismatch. All serious Brit boxing fans knew that, the seats were sold on hype.
As far as fixing the fight in a betting scam the odds on offer for a Haye win, and even to win in round 3 (or 1,or 2) were so poor it wouldn't be worth the effort.
Sorry to tell you but its Mosley that might give Pac more trouble. Thats why your princess ducked Pac with his own testing request, but did not do it on his previous 40 fights.
Pac would overwhelm Flyod and knocked him out.
Other than the last sentence (I think Mayweather's defence will take him the distance), I agree. The only way to beat Pacquiao now is hurt and KO him, and Mosley has a better chance of doing that.
Good that a cruiser gets recognition, it's such an overlooked weight class. Do you guys reckon that Cunningham will eventually move up as Haye and Adamek did?
If he can, there's so much more money to be made at HW, although with the likes of Haye, Adamek and Johnathan Banks already having moved up it might be a lot harder to make. There's some good potential match-ups between those (Haye v. Adamek PLEASE!!) among themselves, let alone with the Klitschkos, Povetkin, etc.
Has to be Tyson by KO as a pick, but this is an interesting fantasy fight. If Haye didn't enter the ring thinking he had already lost (as many of Tyson's opponents seemed to), and could survive to halfway he would be in with a decent shout. We know a lot more about Tyson's breathing problems now than we did at his time of greatness. You can only speculate what sort of fighter he would have been without them; even more fearsome or perhaps less so if he wasn't so desperate for an early KO?
But come on, A.Harrison against Haye or one of the Klitschkos??
Are you kidding me!!!
Who are you actually talking to?! The only person who thinks Fraudley has a chance of winning (or even getting) those fights is Fraudley.
I think what pisses me off in both cases far more than any talent mismatches is that there are so many guys more worthy and who have done far more to earn a shot than either Harrison or Chisora. I guess my answer has to be Haye v. Fraudley as at least Del Boy is likely to earn (another) title tilt at some point if he continues to fight, learn and improve. Fraudley was crap, is crap and if he is stupid enough not to retire will remain crap. Excellent amateurs do not always good pros make.
Why are you necroposting a 3 year old thread?
I don't know, it's an education. Talking of which, some people really need one when it comes to scoring. I think some posters were referring to ice dancing, not boxing.
It's academic now, anyway. Haye was having huge troubles making 200 lbs before.. now he's bulked up (and all of that bulk being muscle) he never will. He has no interest in farting about at cruiserweight again, anyway.
Mike Tyson VS Buster Dougals is gold standard of heavyweight fights that i've seen live. Heavyweights today should take a look at Douglas' show that night and see that a heavyweight can actuilly be an intellegent well rounded figther and have big knockout power as well.
Seconded. Douglas never really got the credit he deserved for that as the emphasis was always much more on Tyson losing the fight than him winning it. It was a totally awesome display on the night and Douglas got the result he deserved. I urge those who haven't seen the fight to do so.
None of the above. He isn't green. He certainly isn't over-rated now, the Calzaghe and (particularly) Taylor fights have shown where his level is and it is below 'serious force', certainly compared with all the guys in the SMW tourney. He doesn't suck, he has a good record only losing to two of the best fighters in recent years. And I like the guy, he is a warrior, has tremendous heart and was dignified in defeat. I wish him well, but it won't be at the top of the SMW division.
it would have to be kessler as froch is not on wards level.
I agree with you, but Froch won't so Ward it will be IMHO. Froch has never ducked anybody and won't start now. It's a much bigger money fight, and I can't see a bigger one for Ward, either.
I think the rematch clause in the contract will be enforced.
So next for Froch is a rematch with Bute.
It's either enforced or Bute retires. I rather suspect he wishes it wasn't there now.. the result will be much the same.
Great idea! Instead of putting on another fight guaraunteed to be a war lets put Froch up against one of the most boring , spoiling fighters of the modern age :hail:
Exactly. With the right opponent, Froch means war and the promoters know it. Dirrell would have us - and them - reaching for the caffeine pills to stay awake.
Big wowsers...mystery solved. Why would the guy ask for special testing if he thought he was breaking the rules? Sorry Khan, you lose.......yet again. This mess should be cleared up in a few weeks.
Sorry to break the news to Cheaterson fans but it makes no difference whether there's a 'medical reason' or not. Many, if not most, drugs banned in sport have legitimate medical uses, but that doesn't mean people using them can compete. What counts is whether they can potentially enhance performance and I'm afraid additional testosterone, be it 'real' or synthetic, rings all the alarm bells.
Professional athletes, and their doctors, must monitor all pharmaceuticals they take with the utmost care. The idea they thought this treatment wouldn't be an issue is utterly ridiculous; testosterone is historically one of the sporting drug-cheats favourites. In the unlikely event this baloney is actually true, Peterson deserves to lose 'his' title for stupidity alone.
:D this **** was awesome, we are getting some exitement like back in tysons days. That chisora got some huge balls, you cant deny it. That guy dont give a ****.Props to him!!! I like both guys, brits have charisma:D
Trouble is, we charismatic Brits would like to see some of that excitement inside the bloody ring for a change.:pat:
Chisora would've have done something if Haye didn't throw the punch first. This fight is ready for the summer.
God, I hope not. No doubt Fraudley will start off about fighting the winner and the winner will seek a fantasy fight with Wlad while running scared of Tyson Fury and David Price. Either of those guys will be good for a shot after another fifteen fights.. in the meantime surely there have to be some proper heavyweights for the Klits to fight?
Do we really have to see this guy lying face down on the canvas again before the hype stops?
No reason we should. It's actually pretty funny that people insist on claiming the Prescott KO was the result of a 'weak chin'; actually that punch was every bit as likely to KO pretty much anybody as was the Pacquiao shot that decked Hatton. If you don't believe that, download the Mitchell v. Prescott fight somebody was kind enough to link to in the videos section and watch the slo-mo (played on the big screen as part of Prescott's entrance). Ouch...
Khan got KOed by Prescott not because of a glass chin but because he was over confident, got careless and his defense was inadequate. But he's spent a lot of time with Freddie Roach since then...
My money would still be on Vitali going into 2010. Vitali is visibly aging, though, and Haye's (or Dimitrenko, or Povetkin, or Chambers) chances get better the longer the fight is delayed. I'd certainly say Haye has a better chance against Vitali than Wlad now; that wouldn't have been the case a year ago.
Should be a great fight, and for the WBA and WBC straps a very meaningful one. Get it on.. and this time David will get a fair share of the pie.
Hard to see where Vitali goes, whatever the result, though? If he wins the only other worthwhile opponent he won't fight for obvious reasons, and what's the purpose of taking on a stream of 'prospects' and mandatories until one of them gets lucky, or age catches up with him? Maybe a good fight to be his last.
I mean since his comeback, he stopped Sam peter, Gomez and arreola, who were all good fight. Ok his last fight against johnson was crap and he didn't stop him (it's hard to look good against a slick fighter who doesn't come to fight) , but he won all twelwe rounds, and now everybody hates on him and now suddently haye will knock him out ? I mean what did haye accomplished at heawyweight. Beating barrett ? or beating valuev who struggled against larry donald, john ruiz, and evander holyfield ?
What is your point supposed to be? Any lack of love for Vitali is certainly not because it's being lavished on Haye, certainly around here. And only an idiot would argue Haye has 'accomplished more at heavyweight'.
I hate to say it, but the simple truth is that Vitali and Wlad have exactly the same 'problem', they are not American. Many American pundits and fans (if by no means all of them) just can't handle the fact both Klitschko's totally outclass any HW America has produced since (prime) Holyfield and just refuse to acknowledge it.
A fight with Froch exposes Calzaghe for what he really is. I mean who the fcuk wants to see him fight Froch except for his fanboys and Froch's fans?
Who would want to see it? I know it's a hard concept for an American to grasp but there is actually a world beyond the good ol' US of A. It's a fight British fans would love to see (even as the total mismatch it is), it will get a live audience five times as big as Dawson will ever pull in his career - unless he came here to fight JC - and a huge TV audience. I repeat, yet again, apart from hardcore fans NOBODY IN THE UK HAS EVEN HEARD OF CHAD DAWSON. I know, I live here.
This is BOXING. That's how it works.
yea thats pretty pathetic honestly....froch is ok not great he said he was nervous of pascal so how good would he even do on a bigger stage
I know two stunning revelations in the same post may be overkill but, amazingly enough, all boxers (or at least the sane ones) get nervous, no matter who they are fighting. What makes a champ is the ability to overcome them and get the job done - just like Froch did against Pascal.
I mean Pacman is the star, the NUMBER 1 PFP fighter in the world, he has EARNED the 60-40 split. Look at the guys resume. Hatton with his recent showings should be happy with that split. Floyd already made him big bucks.
Firstly, the simple fact is that whoever the 'star' may or may not be Hatton brings as much cash, if not more, to the table than Pacquiao. He is also the linear champ and Ring belt holder at 140. To me that rates 50-50 whatever sort of fr*gging resume the challenger may have... and I tend to agree with a couple of previous posters that Pac's resume isn't quite as impressive as you seem to think it is. Linear champ is a matter of fact. #1 PFP is a matter of opinion.
Secondly, a lot depends on the circumstances. You might have a point (although I don't agree with it, as I said) had that been the Pacquiao camp's position from the word go, but it seems everyone thought 50-50 had been agreed. If that was the case, you have to draw the line somewhere and it's not hard to see why Hatton might be a tad pissed.
Thirdly, it depends on what else is being lined up. We simply have no idea of who might be willing to get it on with who at the moment, with PBF being the really big unknown.
lol no one knows who Froch is outside the U.K. It wouldn't make sense at all because Froch is a ****ing nobody. He's a C level boxer with limited skills, the only thing that he has going for him is his chin and power, but his skills are below average. You think HBO would televise a crappy ass Calzaghe vs Froch match, get real. Did the U.K know who Lacy was before he fought Calzaghe? No they didn't.
FFS, try actually reading my post before spouting BS. It doesn't matter a shit who knows him outside the UK or whether HBO televise it or not. This would be a huge fight, moneywise on UK receipts alone. And Joe gets a big farewell in front of 80,000 or so (not one of those poxy Vegas crowds in an over-blown lounge bar) fighting someone who those watching HAVE heard of. Froch wouldn't be short of support, either.
No one ducked anyone, Pac-man is just being greedy.
What he said. I still think this will happen if a brief interlude with both of them trying to tempt PBF out of retirement comes to nothing. 50-50 against Hatton is as least twice as much as Pacquiao would receive getting 70-30 for fighting anybody else, PBF excepted.
Please provide a link to your numbers....My numbers indicate that the median HOUSEHOLD income for Brits is $34,000...
It's all pretty meaningless at the moment. The last figure I could find was for 2006 when it was £UK 24,350. That's about $34,000 today, but would have been nearer £45,000 then. It would have risen a few thousand £UK since then.
Actually, oddly enough average salary and household income aren't much different. For each household where both partners work, you have one or more either where where neither does (pensioners and unemployed), or singles.