His mandatory is Chagaev now but he says he wants a Klitschko fight. Given that he fights once maybe twice a year there's no way he can fight Chagaev and both Klitschkos before he supposedley retires next year.
Also doesn't Vitali have a mandatory coming up which is going to be either Odlanier Solis or Ray Austin?
Surely these guys are going to have to vacate titles, though i can't see any of them wanting to vacate.
Vitali won't want to because part of fighting Haye is that the Klitschkos finally get all the belts in their possession, if he vacates that won't happen.
Haye will probably not want to vacate and i can't see him fighting Chagaev he just wants Klitschko fights now and that's it.
So i don't know how this is going to pan out.
Hardly. Haye didn't want to fight them with the BS deals they offered before; now Vitali has just publicly offered him a straight 50/50 split of all revenues worldwide.
Chagaev won't get a look in; the fight would only sell in the UK, Haye has every right as champ to defend in Britain but Chagaev wouldn't even be licensed to fight there because of his hepatitis (a Valuev type refusal wouldn't even be necessary).
Haye has said he won't fight beyond October 2011.
You must be one of those deluded Brits, Wlad offered him a 50/50 no options contract back in March/April and Diva was too busy or on vacation or something to respond, he only responded when Wlad and Vitaly both signed to fight Briggs or Peter... did you just wake up from paralysis and have been absent for the last 9 months?
Haye doesn't want to fight the Klitschkos ever. You are dilusional if you think he actually wants a fight with a Klitschko. Haye will more likely face Chagaev and then idk seeing as how he only fights once or twice a year he will probably retire.
Hardly. Haye didn't want to fight them with the BS deals they offered before; now Vitali has just publicly offered him a straight 50/50 split of all revenues worldwide.
Chagaev won't get a look in; the fight would only sell in the UK, Haye has every right as champ to defend in Britain but Chagaev wouldn't even be licensed to fight there because of his hepatitis (a Valuev type refusal wouldn't even be necessary).
Haye has said he won't fight beyond October 2011.
The whole sanctioning body of WBA is owned by Don King and Saureland, how else do you explain the circle-jerk of the Valuev/Ruiz/Chagaev fights for 2+ years, mysterious refusal to sanction of Valuev-Chagaev II, then him being stripped before he fights Wlad, and then automatic transfer of the belt to Valuev (even if Chagaev was stripped legitimately, there should have been a fight for the vacant belt between Valuev and the next highest ranked contender).
True, the WBA is owned by King and Sauerland, just as Haye is.
The stream I watched had a Sauerland Promotion banner the entire time and never once mentioned "Hayemaker".
Since we know that the WBA is owned by Haye's promotional interest we will know that it was Haye who wanted to avoid the Klitschkos and begged them to enforce the mandatory should they decide to do so.
Not where the WBA Heavyweight Title is concerned.
Haye's most likely strategy will be to duck Chagaev as well, get himself stripped, and then say he will settle for 50-50 across the board to fight without bringing a belt to the table.
The whole sanctioning body of WBA is owned by Don King and Saureland, how else do you explain the circle-jerk of the Valuev/Ruiz/Chagaev fights for 2+ years, mysterious refusal to sanction of Valuev-Chagaev II, then him being stripped before he fights Wlad, and then automatic transfer of the belt to Valuev (even if Chagaev was stripped legitimately, there should have been a fight for the vacant belt between Valuev and the next highest ranked contender).
Not where the WBA Heavyweight Title is concerned.
Haye's most likely strategy will be to duck Chagaev as well, get himself stripped, and then say he will settle for 50-50 across the board to fight without bringing a belt to the table.
That's exactly what will happen, I just hope the Klitschkos tell him he gets 20% or he can go and blow them...
It's both WBC and IBF, I'm not sure about the WBA and WBO though.
wba will just make Haye a super champ and have chag fight someone for the regular belt.
then have an interim champ
Title unifications take precedence over mandatory defences.
Not where the WBA Heavyweight Title is concerned.
Haye's most likely strategy will be to duck Chagaev as well, get himself stripped, and then say he will settle for 50-50 across the board to fight without bringing a belt to the table.
His mandatory is Chagaev now but he says he wants a Klitschko fight. Given that he fights once maybe twice a year there's no way he can fight Chagaev and both Klitschkos before he supposedley retires next year.
Also doesn't Vitali have a mandatory coming up which is going to be either Odlanier Solis or Ray Austin?
Surely these guys are going to have to vacate titles, though i can't see any of them wanting to vacate.
Vitali won't want to because part of fighting Haye is that the Klitschkos finally get all the belts in their possession, if he vacates that won't happen.
Haye will probably not want to vacate and i can't see him fighting Chagaev he just wants Klitschko fights now and that's it.
So i don't know how this is going to pan out.
Sure, Vitaly got an extension to fight one more time before facing the Solis/Austin winner. It was a tense situation in Cancun, when the WBC President Suiliman walked out of negotiations when the rest of the WBC board members weren't going for it. But it's been agreed to allow Vitaly to fight one more time. At that time Adamek was discussed, pretty sure he can subsitute anyone he wants.
In term of Vagina having Chagaev as the mando. Well, he does have to face him, unless he can pay him step-aside money like Vitaly did for the Peter fight. But I think the Brit vagina will try to weasel out of fighting Chagaev through another way - he'll use the Hep B angle, even though he was vaccinated against it and there is zero chance of him contracting it (not to mention Wlad fought him and is doing just fine).