Is Solis still unbeaten......

It's a legitimate win. I think it was certainly a punch that caused him to do a bit of a leg wobble, or locked his knee more correctly and that made his knee go funky and caused the injury. However, it terms of being legit compared with Vits losses, they are all legit really. If you lose in boxing, you lose. Obviously there are some weird, extenuating circumstances and I think of all the losses being talked about here the Big Klit's loss to Byrd is the least genuine 'loss' obviously, but the fact that he had won the whole fight and only had to move around for two more rounds against the weakest puncher in the division, but gave up instead, meant he deserved to lose. Anyway, this Solis loss is more legit than that Byrd loss. It was actually a punch that made him do the wobble. The Lewis fight was the most legit TKO win though. Lewis didn't cause a indirect injury to some limb with a punch. He tore half Klit's face off over the fight with various shots by landing hard ones to force a stoppage. It's as legit a win in boxing as any other. When you ruin the other guys face to the point of severe permanent damage with punches, it's as legit as any TKO win.

It was definitely a pure knee injury. Solis's left foot was slidng before the punch even landed. Vitali couldve stood their waving at him and it would produce the same result.

It's those irrational Klit homos that need to answer this. Solis fell because of his knee, nothing to do with any punch. It was a pure injury. Should this fight have been a no-contest? http://lodki-katera.com/i/net-nikakogo-udara.gif

im a fan of solis, i wanna see him back in the ring, that was an unfortunate occurence last night

It's those irrational Klit homos that need to answer this. Solis fell because of his knee, nothing to do with any punch. It was a pure injury. Should this fight have been a no-contest? why do you think it was nothing to do with the punch?

It's those irrational Klit homos that need to answer this. Solis fell because of his knee, nothing to do with any punch. It was a pure injury. Should this fight have been a no-contest?

It was Lewis' punches to the face that tore Vitali's face up. Yup.

It was Vitali's punch to the temple that took away the feeling in his legs momentarily, and so he fell in an awkward way and injured his ankle. It was Lewis' punches to the face that tore Vitali's face up.

Solis booked the first round IMO, but he still lost

No, Solis has one loss, just as Vitali has two.

I'm a "klit fan" and I've never claimed that he didn't lose to Byrd or Lewis. The extreme Klitschko lovers are a minority, normal fans shouldn't be generalized into the same category as them.

It was no fight and no rounds were completed. But yes Solis has a loss and Klitschko has the win. You really can't blame the fighters either. Just the way it turned out.

What's the part you disagree about as i have no problems with what you're stating.. i've said plenty of times that whomever thinks Solis won that rd should bring along compubox statistics & prove it..i've yet to receive an answer to that... i will give him credit for hanging in there with Vitali & being able to get close to him while moving well.. it was a close rd until Solis didn't brace himself accurately for incoming fire once he was lunging at Vitali & missing badly. solis landed the more meaningful punches, he landed 3 great hands and a couple of super left hooks all klit did was prod a very very weak jab solis defence was better until his knee went as he avoided all big shots his punches also counted more as he landed more meaningful ones

No he can't because he got Tko'ed in the first rd..was not up on the scorecards like Vitali was.... he was knocked down from a punch & knocked out from an injury..so yes he did lose on injury but at the same time getting his ass beat. I'd like to see the punch stats for all the morons claiming he won the first rd right before tragedy struck. I only watched it once but defintely saw Vitali throw more punches..land more punches & was the aggressor. Solis was hanging in there & was doing well..that rd could've gone either way B4 the knockout. Solis..offense to defense ratio vs Vitali was very good & one of the best ever vs him for about 2 and a half minutes..he failed to defend himself.was taking risks coming in & couldn't protect his head in time as Vitali will hit you back no matter what when you try to hit him. I agree and disagree. From what I saw, Klitschko controlled the fight completely with his LH, and Solis few "rushes", mostly failed to reach Klitschko, who clearly punched and landed far more than Solis, actually pursuing him around the ring, and knocked him down with a legit punch., which took his legs away causing him to stumble back and fall. The suspected injury suffered by Solis is exactly the same as what happened to Klitschko in training just before the Rahman fight, causing him to retire for 4 years. It is often a career ending injury.

The best man usually wins. Byrd was the best man when Vitali swung 370 times at the air. But last night Vitali was the man. Solis got his injury because he's a fat bastard. He tried to move as he did as an amateur, but that is a recipe for disaster at 246 lbs. At his size you cant charge and make sudden stops without endangering your ligaments. He got what he deserved. its been quite a while since i watched the byrd fight, but i am pretty sure i remember vitali clearly winning the fight and stopping due to an injury that really had nothing to do with byrd. i don't think that makes byrd the best man. however this fight had not even gone on long enough to really establish anyone clearly winning. although i certainly think vitali would have gone on to beat solis - it is evident that solis lost because of a freak knee injury, not vitali. so vitali did nothing to prove that he was the best man, and he wasn't given a chance to. i don't think solis got to prove or disprove himself. to give vitali a ton of credit for this win is to expose yourself as a bona-fide 100% undeniable nuthugger IMO. i think we all expected vitali to win, but just because he got the win like we expected doesn't mean he did it in a way which was significant of anything. edit: btw, to respond to op's original question - i don't think its a legit win for vitali, but i do think its a legit loss for solis in the fact that at the professional level he should be in tune with his body enough to not move around like a fool and get a freak knee injury out of nowhere.

solis was winning the fight until an unfortunate knee injury happened. watching the replays you can see his knee locked before the punch even landed. now we can keep saying solis is really undefeated and vitali is ducking him!

Considering Klit fans claim that Vitaly's two losses don't count (especially the Byrd fight, ironically)....can Solis claim this fight doesn't count as he was injured, as opposed to actually losing the fight The best man usually wins. Byrd was the best man when Vitali swung 370 times at the air. But last night Vitali was the man. Solis got his injury because he's a fat bastard. He tried to move as he did as an amateur, but that is a recipe for disaster at 246 lbs. At his size you cant charge and make sudden stops without endangering your ligaments. He got what he deserved.

Was Solis winning the fight before it was stopped? No. It was a 10-8 round for Vitali.

won 17 (KO 12) + lost 1 (KO 1)

It was Vitali's punch to the temple that took away the feeling in his legs momentarily, and so he fell in an awkward way and injured his ankle. http://i51.tinypic.com/w9jkuq.jpg Looks like he might have injured his knee before vitali even landed the punch.