We have all Ben through this but coming back after retirement to struggle past two really poor comebacks doesn’t warrant lineal status in my opinion.
Having said that, following his win over wilder I am more inclined to consider it than prior to the fight.
Struggle past? Which bit of fury vs pianeta or seferi looked like he struggled? And also wether you start to acknowledge it or not no one cares you arrogant twerp your opinion is irrelevant..the facts, in the boxing history books show fury as the lineal champion and the only question was has he lost it in this time off, yet he's proven he still has it and dared to fight the most dangerous champion in the world today , it is quite clear to anyone with sense and knowledge that fury is the lineal champ. He didn't get his belts out the dustbin or elsewhere no he beat an 11year reigning champ..Joshua beat Parker a paper champ, Charles Martin lol and inactive klitschko without the magnitude of the pre fury klitschko. This stuff is really not rocket science it's quite simple really..And if you don't acknowledge lineal status then any Tom, dick or Harry who picks up a belt ie chagaev with the wba regular or charr now will be more of a credible champion than Tyson fury in your books ? Madness. And fury us ring magazine no.2 so AJ and wilder can unify but it won't be for the ring belt or lineal title it will.be for paper champion of the world . You must beat the man if he's still around and kicking and Tyson most definitely is
Agreed. Pac is crazy he is still fighting world level competition in his division and hasn't lost convincingly since Marquez yet he is wrote off by most but he's a legend in action still fighting at a high level i agree he shoukd be appreciated while hes still here. If he was fighting bums id understand the lack of interest but. The man is the fighter of the decade
They root even more when they're ethnically English. That's why **** stains like White Rhino and David Price are actually a thing over there.
Haha yeah and AJ chisora and whyte don't exist do they. Oh and Bruno never existed right. You're not over here don't chat **** u don't know.
After they see what he does to their legendary Tony Bellew. I can't imagine it being competitive either. Gassiev and Briedis would beat the dog**** out of Bellew, too.
No-one cares for bellew in Britain it's a myth. Maybe the city of Liverpool does but he's largely seen as an annoyance
Funny thing about both fighters is that they fought hardly any undefeated fighters. Kessler for calzaghe and Alvarez for mayweather is about it and thts tail end of both fighters careers. Dno if that says much but just an observation. Look at Billy joe saunders for taking 0s
Weight bullying isn't a thing
Its a myth.. if two fighters make the weight then the fight is at that weight
If it was so easy to just boil down everyone would do it and then everyone would be on an equal playing field. Canelo has fought top opposition from 154 to 175. If you're good you're good no weight excuses. Is my theory. I mean yeah Danny Garcia vs rod salka that's what I call a weight bully, brining a small guy up two divisions who is inherently smaller and weaker. But it two 154lb contenders fight but one is really big.like hurd and can make the weight, so be it. It's weak when fans spit their dummy out about someone being a weight bully
I don't think it beats what SRL did.
But it's still incredible where he came from physically.
It does make me wonder though... is it because Fury is really that good?
Or
Is it a sign of how weak the division is that a guy can disappear for a couple of years, balloon up in weight, abuse the chit out of his body with drink and drugs, and then waltz back in and restore himself to the top.
It might be a bit of both.
It can't be both, if fury is just average like the rest of them then the gulf should still be there, he is clearly much better than wilder. He's the man that beat wlad remember that not just any old scrub.he is a special talent and it's surprising that ppl who claim to be knowledgeable about the sport h avent realised this until now. It was evident from chisora 2/hammer even the Cunningham fight showed powers of recovery and dog that others don't have. Them powers of recovery are the GOAT that's undeniable. See a man get up in the 12th from that sledgehammer and be on steady legs, unheard of. God's work
Why would the WBC ban anyone? They have nothing to do with it dummy! LOL
hes Never had the WBC title until now and he was clean! Dummy!
It would be the ....
World Boxing Association Super World Heavy Title
International Boxing Federation World Heavy Title
World Boxing Organisation World Heavy Title
International Boxing Organization World Heavy Title
dummy!
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Why did you copy and paste the list of belts fury beat klitschko for and why is the ring magazine belt omitted.
Wilder is what he is, but he was WBC champ for 5 years. It seems like a good win for Fury to me.
Lol basically yeah. Just like everyone said wlad would beat fury. Suddenly wlad was passed it then. Everyone said ortiz would beat wilder suddenly ortiz is old and trash even though they had a great fightm jus by comparison of mutual opponents we can see that wilder is/was very good heavyweight. Noone came close to doing whar fury did to him. Fury gets the credit simple as..best resume of any current heavyweight, his victories over lineal reigning wlad and wbc champ wilder. Haters just time to accept fury is actually really good.
Back to wilder and yeah the guy just had dynamite in his right hand a decent jab decent chin. Long and rangey. Pretty fast hands. Not the worst judgement of distance. Hes a problem for anybody. Love to see wilder vs AJ i can see it going either way
i mean thats kinda how it works. if someone cheats but you still beat him, would you care about him cheating?
So its not about the integrity of the sport and safety of participants etc its about being a sore loser
Size and reach advantage , youth advantage, great at stand up shrinking im mma which denotes great reflexes, reactions, hand eye coordination. A martial artist who studies mant elements of attack and defence which transfers to any combat sport. He trained for this fight like the biggest most important legacy defining moment in his ancestors history and in his lifetime while floyd took it relatively easy it seems, floyds old and retired it is apparent that his motivation wouldnt be as strong as the younger guy seeking to recieve the torch as the combat sports cash cow. Floyd also probably had money on round 10 or his associates did which equals value for the fans more so than a blow out would, it made ammends for the pacquiao borefest while earning him big money on an unlikely round stoppage. Brilliant. Also mcgregor has vast experience as ab amateur boxer in ireland during his youth i believe while floyd is a shadow of his prime . Many reasons i guess
Let's see tank face a hungry relevant current contender for a final eliminator or some **** before we judge him, he didn't even cut weight properly clearly. But yeah Adrian broner 2.0 could be a good shout lol who's his Maidana gonna be though??
It wasn't a competetive fight so even though it was hyped up around tank he could have not gotten up for it. Gamboa hasn't been a relevant contender for years and years, didn't he barely beat Sosa? Controversially. Lost to some journeyman too I'm sure. Fuvk this fight.
You guys really wana see canelo GGG again dafuq. Two **** fights man why do u want a third. For another razor thin decision win for canelo, controversy. No knockdown or stoppage happening. Golovkin just jabbing and using his face as his defence. Boring
A beatdown stoppage like Guillermo jones vs lebedev or fury vs chisora 2. The taller guy just outlanding out jabbing out countering their smaller opponent to a bludgeoning. Like fury vs hammer is always beautiful. Like wilder vs stiverne 1 or then you got the ultimate destruction like eubank vs dos Santos and wilder vs stiverne 2 they're beautiful. Destructions like you refer to. Haye vs maccaranelli Tyson vs Berbick or spinks. Complete physical destruction and domination is ultimate glory in the warriors code no? Like broner in his prime wrecking snall guys like v eloy perez he looked like a super hero like Prince naz in his prime , mentally and physically wrecking your opponent.But skill is greatly appreciated, mayweather vs mosley 2nd half of that fight that sort of domination i guess they all have their merits. Depends what you prefer but I don't believe when AJ says he wanted to go 12 rounds with Joseph Parker, I find it hard to believe guys who say they wanted to go 12 or drag out the humiliation for their opponent, like the aforementioned blowouts don't do that anyway. But maybe in some cases its true and they want to showcase their domination. It's interesting question and a beautiful brutal sport I love it.
I'd watch but is It ethical. They're instances like that one armed MMA fighter and stuff where they are capable of beating non handicapped guys. Weird one. Don't think anybody is screaming out for it..
Jim Ross was funny "slobber knocker".. I miss the wcw- wwf, hey I might check it out when bored lol. Current wwe has been pretty insufferable imo. Tyson & that guy at the King Jewel press conference was terrible imo.
AEW is good fun I've just been getting into it. They're a bit less PG than wwe and old school. Jr commentary amazing to hear again as always. I think Cody started AEW though not Christ Jericho.
He was out on his feet. End was nigh. Some refs like to keep their conscience clean that they haven't been responsible for disabling a guy. He went down twice already it's like AJ in the Ruiz fight he was on his feet but the ref had seen enough. They're arguments for early stoppages and for letting the fight go. I agree that he should have let klitschko go out on his shield or try mount a mammoth comeback due to his longevity in the sport
Why does everybody think a b sample is needed where is this information from.. the hearing and exonorating happened before the Rivas fight, no b sample is necessary. What we need is an explanation from UKAD and white as to how he talked himself our of that hearing and explained the adverse findings. An explanation of what exactly was the adverse findings and the ppm..there should be an official report by UKAD and an I'm depth statement from team whyte to put this to bed. If the b sample came back with the same adverse findings as his initial sample(which they allowed him to fight with) then nothing is proven or disproven. Whyte hasn't denied the findings why would he request the b sample?
Audrey Harrison when him sprott and Skelton and Danny Williams were the best British had to offer. But I was a like Tyson fan from about 6/7 years old and compiled a little file with things I printed off at the internet shop about him and his stats and his workouts and watched his documentaries and interviews. That and Prince naseems license to thrill vhs are my first boxing memories. I'm going but you guys saying Khan make me feel older