This Heavyweight Boxer is in WILD TROUBLE!

Man we think so much alike sometimes it's crazy...this is like when both of us give credit to Golovkin for giving Canelo a 2nd fight ;) In all seriousness though I think this fight sells pretty well, relatively speaking, for Wilder...so I think he and his team would take it for that reason...and Wilder seems to be improving while Ortiz is only getting older...it is still a risky enough fight imo...I may be a bit biased though as I've always liked Ortiz. It is a bit ironic that you think this a dangerous move for Wilder and praiseworthy...but that Canelo taking on GGG a 3rd time would apparently be a waste of time? I don't really follow that. that is because you know nothing about levels Wilder =/= Canelo in the Wilder/Ortiz fight, Wilder offered the more-skilled guy a rematch... if Canelo/Golovkin III happened, the more-skilled fighter would be offering Golovkin a rematch...

agree with the bold... but anyone can win a heavyweight fight also... you don't give a skilled/thinking fighter, a rematch you bank the win and move on Wilder has advantages, but he is taking an unnecessary risk with Ortiz I am sure that decision was not made by his handlers Man we think so much alike sometimes it's crazy...this is like when both of us give credit to Golovkin for giving Canelo a 2nd fight ;) In all seriousness though I think this fight sells pretty well, relatively speaking, for Wilder...so I think he and his team would take it for that reason...and Wilder seems to be improving while Ortiz is only getting older...it is still a risky enough fight imo...I may be a bit biased though as I've always liked Ortiz. It is a bit ironic that you think this a dangerous move for Wilder and praiseworthy...but that Canelo taking on GGG a 3rd time would apparently be a waste of time? I don't really follow that.

Do you think perhaps Ortiz is a better boxer overall than Fury? Ortiz nearly TKO’d Wilder, while Fury never really came close IMHO. Unpopular opinion on here but I do 100%...Fury outboxed Wilder the last 6 rounds...Ortiz did it the whole fight...he got caught more too though

Wilder via KO 7th round

I think wilder is better prepared for Ortiz this time round and it will be hard for Ortiz to put in a better performance than he did in the first one..plus Ortiz looked like **** in his last few fights. I don't see how he can win. Ppl say he nearly stopped wilder but he didn't did he, he just wobbled him..it happens. agree with the bold... but anyone can win a heavyweight fight also... you don't give a skilled/thinking fighter, a rematch you bank the win and move on Wilder has advantages, but he is taking an unnecessary risk with Ortiz I am sure that decision was not made by his handlers

Been posting for awhile now that all are beatable and ALL will lose and I'm talking about (AJ, Wilder and Fury)...AJ was just the first he won't be the last :dunno: By late 2020 you could look up and see talks about Ruiz vs Ortiz for Unification and guess what...IT WOULD STILL SELL! So yeah I feel sorry for you guys who get so emotionally attached to these fighters! They not Mayweather, they not a good as Mayweather, they're going to let you down eventually and their fans will fall into depression and go silent just like the AJ Fans recently once their "God" Falls :lol1:

Ortiz didn't get in shape for fun, he's coming to do business! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6n1RsdYXW0 I bet Ortiz. Great odds Ortiz doesn't look good in the work out videos I've seen posted on YT recently. He looks old and shot. I think anybody who puts money on him to beat Wilder is going to wish they hadn't bothered.

Do you think perhaps Ortiz is a better boxer overall than Fury? Ortiz nearly TKO’d Wilder, while Fury never really came close IMHO. Ortiz has elite power, Fury doesn't. Fury is still a better overall boxer, though.

You feel ripped off because it was competetive ? What nonsense. Worth every penny the excitement of that fight. Naw, just because there was no clear OFFICIAL winner. So much hype and build up and didn't really answer any questions. Fury is the better boxer and Wilder has the power to knock him out. Things we all knew going into it. I said right in my post that it was exciting at the time just a huge let down at the end IMO. Maybe also something to do with me feeling cheated for buying into Fury's depression/suicide story as it was something I personally struggled with a lot and in the end it felt like he just made it up to sell the fight because mental health awareness was trendy at the time. I'm just a bitter cvnt I guess

I might toss a few bucks on Ortiz by KO/TKO but more trying to decide what round or group of rounds Wilder stops him in. I'll bet the money that would have gone to waste on this PPV and stream it as I still feel ripped off from the Fury/Wilder fight. Not that it wasn't exciting to watch at the time but it ending with no definitive conclusion was annoying. Maybe that will artificially amp up excitement levels of this fight for me. You feel ripped off because it was competetive ? What nonsense. Worth every penny the excitement of that fight.

Wilder inside 5. Stiverne 2 style demolition job. Though i agree Ortiz looks trim and in shape and it's no buster Douglas upset if he wins

I think wilder is better prepared for Ortiz this time round and it will be hard for Ortiz to put in a better performance than he did in the first one..plus Ortiz looked like **** in his last few fights. I don't see how he can win. Ppl say he nearly stopped wilder but he didn't did he, he just wobbled him..it happens.

I might toss a few bucks on Ortiz by KO/TKO but more trying to decide what round or group of rounds Wilder stops him in. I'll bet the money that would have gone to waste on this PPV and stream it as I still feel ripped off from the Fury/Wilder fight. Not that it wasn't exciting to watch at the time but it ending with no definitive conclusion was annoying. Maybe that will artificially amp up excitement levels of this fight for me.

Do you think perhaps Ortiz is a better boxer overall than Fury? Ortiz nearly TKO’d Wilder, while Fury never really came close IMHO.

I bet Ortiz. Great odds